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Upon further reflection of finale...an actual let down.....(SPOILIERS - blacked out)....


By let down, this is what I meancop out not to show any of the repercussions of the killing of Ruth. For example, what does everyone think her business partner is going to do? And the Byrde children? Especially when it becomes know that Marty and Wendy KNEW beforehand what was going to happen to Ruth? I think this will not only make the business partner go after Marty and Wendy for revenge but that they are going to both lose their children over this. Next, I imagine the black FBI agent is also going to go ballistic over the disappearance of the private detective. Then there is what happens to Three and all the other side parts. I think they really hurried this final season and may have left it so open-ended to a later 2 hr movie or something.>

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Ruth's business partner will likely think she's next, and move back to Florida; She's not the type to think she can take on the Cartel. The Byrde children are the ones responsible for helping Ruth find Javi by telling her his name, exact location, and even printing out a picture of the guy! Yeah, if anyone should feel really guilty for enabling Ruth to kill Javi, and sealing her fate, it's them. After the PI took the deal to become a cop again, the black FBI agent said that that he was nothing to her at that point, they were through, and not contact her again. We were expected to root for the Byrds all along, and the finale really emphasized that point. They all even survived the car wreck with no injuries! Yeah, Wendy even says near the end at the party: "We're bulletproof".

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I think you have overlooked the contempt others have for the Byrde's and how many hate them. And when the FBI agent learns the PI left the Chicago PD and is now missing, she would exact revenge on the Byrdes. Also, I think you understate the reaction of the Byrde children when they learn their parents did nothing to save Ruth. Their behavior this season shows they would have wanted her saved even if it meant potential danger for them. And Rachel, Ruth's partner, would not let it go.

The ending was a petty cop out.

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What makes you think the children will find out they knew and did nothing?

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They always do....

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I'll just answer this then with they still always end up back home.

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Yeah she told the priest the wreck was a sign they were gonna be OK.

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I concur with this assessment!

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Exactly fzane.

Rachel is (was always?) meek and will be off like a shot.

The kids are happy to be involved in allsorts at this stage. They're basically their parents now and accept repurcussions of events as part of the plan.

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I think the business partner won’t say anything else because of fear for the same fate. Since the PI left to take his police job back, the FBI lady no longer wanted contact. However, if he told her he changed his mind and was a PI again before breaking into their home to retrieve the ashes, then yes, Mary and Wendy are in trouble. I don’t think he told her, because he wasn’t really sure he’ll find the goat cookie jar there. With that being said, I think they’re safe. Additional. I wished it had been Wendy instead of Ruth! I can’t stand Wendy! She’s a textbook narcissist! Yet, Ruth sealed her own fate! Marty told her to leave it alone. I mean to retaliate against the second in command Narco is just asking for problems. She should’ve never went after Javi!

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The bad guys won. There's no repercussion. Ruth was not a big player for her death to make a big splash. The FBI got what they wanted already.

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I think the whole cycle will just keep going forever. There'll always have to be someone who needs to be killed to keep their whole operation going and to keep them out of trouble, or to keep them from being killed by the cartel. I think what the finale answered was, how far are they willing to go into the darkness to save each other. The answer is, as far as it takes, however far that is. There's nothing they won't do.

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The Byrde’s got away with everything. With Ruth out of the way, they can continue laundering money at the Belle with the blessing of the FBI.

Camila will run the Cartel, also with the blessing of the FBI. So, she won’t touch the Byrdes.

Rachel will probably just go back to Florida. She made it clear in her last appearance that killing people is too hard on her conscience.

Maya will also just leave it alone. She messed up once and had a baby to take care of.

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I would not be surprised if in a year or two there is a two-hour movie or something like it.

Also, I did read an interesting review online about how the show ending was a reflection of those that always win and those that always lose and how the concept was to remain consistent within that frame of winners and losers. It actually kind of made sense.

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Ozark
SPOILERS
Although the final season held my interest, it ultimately was a disappointment. Yes, I understand the sentiment that Ozark is an accurate reflection of the fates of most of the have’s and most of the have-nots. For me, all I have to do it watch the news and politics to see that the “have’s” win almost all the time and rarely face the consequences, at least legally, for their actions. How many decades (about 6) has trump been breaking the law?

Here were the problems/questions I have about the final season
8 new characters: Javi, Camilla, Clare, Mel, Wendy’s dad, Ruth’s partner, priest, FBI gal:
I know Ruth’s partner was in the show early on but the introduction and reintroduction so many characters didn’t work for me. Why was Javi a psycho? Who was Camilla? I liked Mel but his back story was to brief.
Car crash no injuries:
I’ve seen the idea that it was a metaphor for the Byrd’s being bullet-proof but that didn’t comport with the series which for the most part was a series of situations and trying to logically deal with them. They gave it extra weight by teasing it in the first episode of the final season. The lack of injuries took me completely out of the story into fantasy land.

Ruth approaching car:
She’s too smart to approach a car that is standard cartel unarmed.

Killing of Navarro:
I guess the story’s going to be, Navarro got a hold of the gun, killed the one guard and tried to escape?
Clare’s’ bodyguard disposing of body?:
That’s what Clare said. Was it part of her lie? Must be a loyal employee. Clare and the Byrd’s should’ve had a story of Javi’s demise prepared. Surely they could have implicated someone thy actually wanted targeted by Camilla.
No back entrance to Darlene’s:
She’s got tons of land and I assume she doesn’t move her drugs through the front gate yet there is Ruth driving through the front gate with the intention of loading drugs with the FBI right there.
Charlotte wanting to go with grandad:
I know she had an explanation but I

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I agree. I guess they have the FBI in their pocket so the investigation surrounding Ruth, who just took over most of the controlling authority of the Belle, winds up dead will cover it up.

With so many episodes in the last season, it was practically 2 seasons, too much was left unresolved. Some of it was weak such as Jonah all of sudden turning the switch to be on his parents side because Wendy just gave a little speech in the mental health center. There wasn't anything really conclusive for the Byrds. I think the thing that bothers me the most is that Wendy never got what she deserved. Overall it was a bit underwhelming, but I am glad the show is over, especially with the loss of Ruth, the kids just aren't interesting enough to keep it going.

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