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There's no way they would have won in reality (spoilers).


Seriously, I can't understand how they could have won in court. They had zero incriminating evidence against the company, which linked it to any crimes (the illegal weapons) or the blowing up of the boat.
Plus the lawyer (mcbright?) looked very bad by pressuring the police officer with the prostitute.

Their whole case looked like they were trying to use the boy to make money of a big company who hasn't done anything wrong.

There's no way the company would have been prosecuted to pay so much in real life. I thought this was written by a lawyer himself?

To me it felt like the writer tried really hard to make them win at the end, only because the viewer of the series knows the company did something wrong.

And what about this cliche "oh I record your private confession" and suddenly all the bad guys get their pay..

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"Their whole case looked like they were trying to use the boy to make money of a big company who hasn't done anything wrong."

Do you perchance WORK for such a company? If so, shame on you.

Of course they could have won the case in real life. There's plenty of incriminating evidence, beginning with the model weapon.

Get a life, moron!

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Their whole case looked like they were trying to use the boy to make money of a big company who hasn't done anything wrong.


I'm surprised McBride's closing argument didn't rebut what the defenses claim of "making money of big corp" by saying "we've been offered settlements and refused them because this isn't about making money for the winner". I'm not sure he could in a real setting and would love to hear a trial attorney's opinion/knowledge about that.

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Same here. Callie's speech in the end was much better than Billies, and her case MUCH stronger too. The win was beyond a stretch. Usual Hollywood feel-good fantasy, who cares about reality, right? I'm saying this not because I dont like feel-good endings (I do), but because it should be within some semblance of common sense.

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In real life, in a David vs. Goliath case like this, a young boy vs. a gigantic defense contractor, people killed by hit-and-runs, dead bodies in trunks, gorgeous hookers, and so on, the news media would be all over it. Nancy Grace would be hyperventilating every night.

But not a single reporter in sight.

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Yes, there are things about many programs that aren't realistic. They're fictionalized, and even if a true story, are dramatized with small details changed.

That doesn't matter.

BUT...you are ignoring something that juries can and DO do: jury nullification. Which is to say, occasionally a jury gets a sense for the verdict they want to find, and they do it, regardless of the evidence.

This was done in the OJ Simpson trial, for example, where there was a mountain of evidence proving his guilt.

I saw this on tv once, where a jury delivered a not guilty verdict for a black man charged with violating parole by possessing a gun, despite the fact that it was a slam dunk guilty case. They did that because they didn't think a guilty verdict was fair, because of extinuating circumstances, and because of what would have happened, had they voted guilty.

In reality, what would happen in the Goliath show case is that the defense would file a motion called "Motion for Judgment Notwithstanding the Verdict," which would be denied. Then they would file an appeal on all sorts of things, including that the jury's verdict wasn't based on the evidence.

Maybe the defense will do this in Season 2. BUT, in the meantime, the CEO Wendell Corey of the corporation has been arrested and charged by the FBI, which won't help the defense's appeal or re-trial, if that is ordered by the appellate court.

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I thought they had a chance but really, after the trial, I thought they had lost -- too little evidence allowed, too much testimony struck from the record.

It was not a convincing victory to me.

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