She's not dark enough
I am frustrated that Hollywood continues to white wash Black women in studio films. Why??
I am frustrated that Hollywood continues to white wash Black women in studio films. Why??
Who would you rather have mooboo bahgobo our lupita nyongo? Those are pretty much your options.
shareBut on the flip side, look at the fall out when they darkened Zoe Saldana to play Nina Simone. :-|
I wouldn't call this a whitewashing. Fine, she's lighter skinned than the real Mrs. Loving but nothing so drastic it would make my head spin. Speaking for myself, my skin tone from summer to winter can be pretty drastic, but it's still me. :) Now you face another situation - do we start assigning roles based on skin tone? Is it alright if the actress is a little darker? And if so, then why? See what I mean? :(
Don't misunderstand me though, I truly get where you're coming from. We've watched it over the years in the media and while things have improved, the 'lighter the better' vibe is still going strong in 2016. But when good stories are being told that shed some light on history and tell a strong message, I try to give it a pass. Tearing it down ensures these movies don't get made going forward.
Now, had they cast Jennifer Lawrence or Mila Kunis...we'd have words. LOL
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They keep substituting biracial or multiracial black people for full black people... and then they promote interracial marriage along with it! It's like that show The Flash on the CW. They have one biracial black man and a black multiracial women whose parents are full black, kinky hair and all... and then the interracial relationship between the white guy and the multiracial posing-as-black girl. It's like they're sending this message that the whiter black people are the more acceptable we are. Very sneaky! and pisses me off!
This woman Ruth Negga is mixed and she looks it! The woman this story is based on is BLACK! White people need to stop with this crap. Very sneaky.
http://www.theroot.com/blog/the-grapevine/jesse_williams_describes_the_privileges_that_his_biracialness_affords_him/
“I have access to rooms and information. I am white and I am also black. I am invisible man in a lot of these scenarios,” Williams said, referring to the Ralph Ellison classic. “I know how white people talk about black people. I know how black people talk about white folks. I know I am there and everyone speaks honestly around me.”share
And boy, did white people keep it completely 100 with Williams when he was growing up. He recalled how he cringed when an older white woman basically told him that his brand of blackness was better than that of people who are fully black.
“I remember a mom of a friend of mine in the suburbs made some comment about a black person and—I had to be 12, about 60 pounds—I said something and she said, ‘Oh no, not you. You are not black. You are great.’ It was real. That f–king happened. And she meant it. And she meant it sincerely and sweetly. She was paying me a compliment,” Williams recalled.
Williams is even aware of how some of his European features, like his blue eyes, open doors for him. He’s bringing his social-justice work through those doors and is simultaneously unraveling the idea that his European features are better than any others."
Candice Patton from The Flash is not multiracial.
shareIt doesn't matter if she's actually multiracial or not. Maybe not. I'm going off of what I saw in this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPHNXybdpdM&ab_channel=ComicVine
around 3:30, the interviewer calls her multi-ethnic and Candice Patton nods her head in agreement. I haven't seen any clear pictures of her mother, but she's really light-skinned and seems to have straight hair. Not sure what she is - she could be full black because there are black people who have those features - but either way it's about what you'd expect for Candice Patton to look the way she does.
On the show they portrayed Iris' mother as being brown-skinned with kinky hair, but Iris is not brown-skinned with kinky hair. Two brown-skinned black people with kinky hair textures don't produce a light-skinned daughter with loose curls. If they had portrayed the mother in a way that was accurate I wouldn't have had a problem with this and even still, I ignored it. But when they added Keiynan Losdale to the mix it started to feel like erasure, like black substitutes. It's slight on its own, but when it starts happening again and again, it's questionable. Like interracial bw/wm pairings. It's all over the place.
Candice Patton is not light skinned, she's brown. Same color as the actors who play her parents. She looks like a regular African American.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/Candice_Patton_at_Paleyfest_2014.jpg
I don't know what her natural hair texture looks like but I've seen nothing that leads me to believe she has a loose curl hair pattern.
Candice Patton is light skinned. The lighting in that picture makes her look darker. Her and Keiynan are the same color. Jesse L. Williams is darker, as is the actress who played their mother.
http://www.recapblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/the-flash-comic-con-retrato-ew-330x242.jpg
http://cs630923.vk.me/v630923575/48bb1/mGeGCne9asY.jpg
I suspected Candice's hair was a looser texture from the first time I saw her. Black people with looser textured hair straighten with a flat iron as opposed to relaxing like the average black woman who has straight hair. Loose textured hair looks and behaves differently from kinky hair that is straightened (pressed) or relaxed. Like Michelle Obama's hair. I could tell Michelle Obama's hair was looser textured as well (her hair isn't as loose as Candice Patton's).
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUn3Dj7WcAAvOHN.jpg
This is a video with a black girl with relaxed hair. You may not be able to notice the difference but I think that kind of thing is obvious to the average black person.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-Yd0tBld4w&ab_channel=SoFreshDyamond
Here's a video where you can see Candice's hair texture. It's shinier and bouncier. Kinky hair has more sheen than shine and isn't as bouncy when it's straightened.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihDc3jjFwqM&ab_channel=WhedonopolisVideos
Here's Michelle Obama's hair texture. at 1:08. Same thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln3wAdRAim4&ab_channel=TheLateLateShowwithJamesCorden
Black people don't all look the same or have the same features. Some of us do have lighter skin or looser hair textures or light eyes but these people are privileged compared to black people who are darker-skinned with kinkier hair and dark eyes. Anything associated with European features tends to be put on a pedestal by black people as well as people outside of our community.
Even black supermodels have said that makeup artists and hairstylists don't come prepared to do their makeup or hair. I had an experience when I was younger of going into a salon and them refusing to do my hair and it was a major retailer's salon. Look at Michonne on The Walking Dead and how they handled her dreads. HAIR IS VERY VERY IMPORTANT IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY. And colorism is a bring problem, hence the natural hair movement. So we notice these things, even if it's just subconsciously we still take it in.
Take out your rage on white people and self hating blacks not biracials, Jesse Williams is way more of a black man than rappers and athletes you get these days
shareMy anger isn't directed at biracial or multiracial people. My issue is with the white people who do the casting, and they are white. I checked. They need to get with the program or hire black people to do casting when they're dealing with black people. Something similar happened in Underground where one of the characters is supposed to be biracial and her half sister is a white woman and it was just absolutely ridiculous. I knew a white person was behind it even though the show is a black show. Looked it up and sure enough, 3 white casting directors.
shareMildred Loving was biracial-Black and native.
I find Oscar Bait infinitely more interesting than ticket bait
A lot of West Indian black people have native ancestry. They all look black although if you look closely you can see the features. Mildred Loving looks like a few of them I know, especially this one lady from Belize. Most people would assume they were full black even though some of them are very light skinned.
I have a cousin who is 3/4 black and 1/4 Irish and she looks like Ruth Negga. Same skin tone/color, hair texture, eyes, and hair color, just that she doesn't look mixed. It's a distinct look.
Have you not seen pictures of the real Mildred Loving?
http://img.timeinc.net/time/photoessays/2008/farewell/farewell_loving.jpg
And believe me, Id be the FIRST person to complain if that part was "whitewashed"...case in point that Zoe Saldana MESS blackface as Nina Simone...
But Negga was a perfect cast for the part of Mildred.
Here is the problem with the OP's comment. v
In 2016, intersectionality continues the fight for a more tolerant country by exposing the white privilege of the interracial. The first target was Zoe Saldana, a black actress with Dominican, Haitian and Puerto Rican roots, who was accused of “blackface” for playing Nina Simone without the requisite racial purity. A petition condemns having “light-complexioned actors” playing “the roles of dark-complexioned historical figures”. Saldana was accused of having a “Eurocentric” face that meets “European standards of beauty”, instead of an “Afrocentric” face. She was told to check her “light-skinned black woman privilege”.
Yes, black people can also have white privilege as long as their skin isn’t the right shade of black and their features aren’t “Afrocentric” enough. Intersectionality is just legitimized racism. And racism is a pathological obsession with racial purity that can never stop on its own. The reverse version of the one drop rule is that even one drop of “white blood” is enough to transmit the disease of “white privilege”.
That article you linked to is absurd and missing the point entirely with their woefully obtuse, laughable left wing conspiracy. The miscasting of dark skinned black women has nothing to do with white people! The entire article pretends to not even understand the existence of black features, by putting them in quotations.
Black females are constantly portrayed by light skinned biracial actresses. (Note that this is not an issue that exists with black male characters/actors. They're not casting the likes of Jesse Williams or Michael Ealy as Luke Cage. But they will cast Alexandra Shipp and Zendaya as Storm).
Hollywood casting directors favoring mixed actresses / mixed raced features whenever they have to cast a black female, even when casting a real life person, is a prejudice casting pattern.
I disagree with the Saldana controversy in particular because Zoe is not nearly light skinned as people tried to make it seem.
@MariMcCabe
The miscasting of dark skinned black women has nothing to do with white people!
It does, because it's usually white folks who do most of the casting in Hollywood. And that article was written by a right-wing white dude----the thing is, it's white people who started that whole damn issue around skin color during slavery to keep black folks at each other's throats to begin with.
@MariMcCabe
The miscasting of dark skinned black women has nothing to do with white people!
It does, because it's usually white folks who do most of the casting in Hollywood. And that article was written by a right-wing white dude----the thing is, it's white people who started that whole damn issue around skin color during slavery to keep black folks at each other's throats to begin with.
The entire article pretends to not even understand the existence of black features, by putting them in quotations.
@retro
Another thing---Zoe Saldana isn't even light-skinned---she's a brown-skinned black woman, but for some reason, some idiots keep claiming she's light-skinned---they obviously are going by her IMDB photo, which simply has way to much light in it. Obviously these people have never actually seen the actress, because she is not in anyway remotely light-skinned. I thought everybody know that by now. And people need to get the hell over the NINA thing. The movie barely got any promotion when it came and went,and no one said jack about it. And Saldana was asked to play the role because she's a big name,period. A lot of actors have their faces made up to play in certain roles that involve aging, if they are playing the role themselves. I mean,give it a rest.
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