Better than black hawk down


Anyone else agree?

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Well let's put it this way.....

One might have actually forgotten that Michael Bay can actually direct a movie not filled with CGI.
In fact I watched the beginning credits, saw that it said Michael Bay, watched the whole movie till
the end credits, saw his name for the second time and realized that the movie was so good that I had forgotten that this was his movie and was shocked that he was the director of such a fantastic movie.

This had to be, IMHO, the most realistic war movie that I've ever seen, as far as weaponry and wounds. Maybe the only other movie that could come close that I can think of is maybe the last
30 minutes of the last Rambo movie, when it comes to what a .50 Cal does to a the human body.
I remember good ol' movies like Red Dawn(Which is still one of my favorites) where an RPG
consisted of a bottle rocket on a string. I'm sure there was a good amount of CGI in this,
but really it was hard to tell.

But that's just the SFX part of it, even cared about the characters in this.

(EDIT: There wasn't any 0.50 Cal fired in this movie, the one scene with 12th Brigade firing was a DShK 12.7x108mm and the Insurgence technical that Tig took out with the 40mm grenade had twin mounted 14.5x112mm KVPs. Think of it as a .50 is to the 12.7x108 and the 14.5x114mm as a .22 calibre is to a .44 magnum)

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I am surprised aslo that Michael Bay has not pulled a long and dreading Pearl Harbor where most of the cool scenes are the aerial ones.

Tough to arbitrate with BHD ... with time, may be it will help to see if it lasts. I would say that it is a quite a "copy" of Black Hawk Down:
- soldiers in contact with theuir families back home
- scenes at headquarters
- kill ratio
- factual (As much as it can be based on official information and hearsay) descriptions of events without going into who was responsible of the war, the situation, etc.
- Heroic acts from indiviuals
- bit of gore
- etc.

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Well I would have to say that BHD(A movie I have seen countless times, including playing it with the director's commentary and the extra commentary with the real guys that were there that night) is probably a more cinematic movie, there wasn't any scenes of people literally getting cut in pieces by large calibre bullets.
I think 13 Hours was more realistic for the reasons of dialogue and weapons use, as far as what the
real guys would have done and said to each other during a situation like this. An example being when the guy shoved some cotton in his right ear real quick, when sitting to the left of the M240B.
Just little touches like that increase the realism IMHO. Another example is when Tig is using the
HK69A1 to try and take out the technical, in any other movie he would have hit it on the first try, but just like real life, people miss targets with those things the first go around, then of course he drops it on the ground while falling back and it's never seen again.

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Another example is when Tig is using the
HK69A1 to try and take out the technical, in any other movie he would have hit it on the first try, but just like real life, people miss targets with those things the first go around, then of course he drops it on the ground while falling back and it's never seen again.


Sorry just like in Black Hawk when Grimes uses his 40mm to take and BLOW UP a Technical and Tig does in 13 Hours a 40mm High Explosive round will NOT blow up a car/ute into the air and split it into 4 pieces. It will wreck the sh.t out of it and the petrol tank will ignite setting the car on fire and anybody inside.

Also in 13 Hours the enemy militia were firing RPG-7s over the Compound walls in an arc or lobbing them. They don't do that, they shoot as straight as a bullet and self explode after about 1000 metres.

If you are not willing to give up everything, you have already lost

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RPG-7s do not shoot straight as a bullet when there is winds and other factors like people shooting them while moving.
And what's Petrol?

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RPG-7s do not shoot straight as a bullet when there is winds and other factors like people shooting them while moving.


For the first couple of hundred metres they do shoot straight!

And what's Petrol?


What 'Merican call Gas. So what do they call LPG for your car in the Good 'Ol US of A? We call that gas.

If you are not willing to give up everything, you have already lost

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nah.Black Hawk Down was much better.better cast as well.

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BHD is a masterpiece.
this one(and all other titles of ol' Michael), for me, is like a prono, I watch it when I want to jack off, and I don't do that often recently cause I could manage me some real pussy once for a while.

no offends, really.

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Yup, I think it's currently the best modern warfare movie out there.

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I would say it's nearly as good as Black Hawk Down. Close but no cigar, but that's still a compliment.

People forget that Bay mostly uses practical fx in his films, and The Rock is a classic action film. Did I take the story at face value as a true account of the events? Hell no. However, as an exercise in pure no frills visceral action cinema, it's pretty damn exciting. Reminds me of those patriotic action films that Chuck Norris and Stallone use to star in back in the day (except on a bigger budget with slightly better dialogue). Mark this down as "underrated", and Bay's best film since The Rock.


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BHD is a modern classic, 13 hours is most definitely not.


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No way is it better than Black Hawk Down in my opinion. Black Hawk Down was nearly perfect. 13 hrs was good, especially for a Michael Bay movie. But it's hard to top BHD or Saving Private Ryan for that matter.

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Similar. I liked BHD a little better.

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