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I didn't enjoy this film, unfortunately (spoilers)

posted 6 years ago by JakeSWITCH (504)
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I enjoyed the dark opening scenes with the Avengers hunting Thanos, the nearly post-apocalyptic Earth, and a few key scenes during the final battle (Captain American wielding Thor's hammer and the appearance of Black Panther raised the hair on my arms). "Professor Hulk" was amusing. I also liked the nods to "Agent Carter" (Marvel's best TV series) and Steve's eventual fate.

Unfortunately, I really disliked the big middle section of the film. I found that the plot was weak (the film hinges on a rat freeing Ant-Man from the Quantum Realm), the time travel adventures verged too far on the side of overlong fan service (moments like Cap versus Cap could have been removed entirely), the humour was flippant and there was some characterization I thought was simply ... broken.

We get a lot of Nebula. Chris Hemsworth didn't have the acting chops to pull off Thor as a tragic AND comedic figure. Black Widow's sacrifice felt meaningless because a massive part of her character arc (her past as an assassin) occurred off-screen. All of Rhodey's dialogue was strangely mean-spirited.

Worst of all, the relentless, philosophical Thanos, who was the highlight of "Infinity Wars" (for me), reverted to a typical Marvel end-of-level boss in this film, replete with some disappointingly cliched "I'm gonna enjoy this" dialogue and (for some reason) a big anime-style sword.

There were also some really unearned nods to diversity sprinkled throughout the film, like the gay man in Steve's "survivor's group" and the second-tier (largely) female superheroes grouping together in the final battle. A miniscule bit of dialogue really isn't enough to say this film features "Marvel's first gay character" and grouping the female characters awkwardly together doesn't change the fact that only "Captain Marvel" has received her own solo film.

I think this film could have been great, but, ultimately, the filmmakers took the safe way out and made a three-hour film designed to placate fans without attempting to challenge their imaginations.

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[–] alienzen (1931) 6 years ago

You complain about Thor's characterization, and then about them playing safe in the same post.

Insert eye rolling smiley here.

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[–] JakeSWITCH (504) 6 years ago

"Chris Hemsworth didn't have the acting chops to pull off Thor as a tragic AND comedic figure."

"I think this film could have been great, but, ultimately, the filmmakers took the safe way out and made a three-hour film designed to placate fans without attempting to challenge their imaginations."


One is a criticism of Chris Hemsworth's acting. The other is a criticism of the filmmakers' ambition.

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[–] galahadfairlight (414) 6 years ago

As soon as I saw your "diversity" bollocks, I instantly stopped reading.

I won't be clicking your link. You're probably one of these insufferable fools that wanting Steve and Bucky to be an item!

Begone you fool.

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[–] Satan2016 (25525) 6 years ago

Reading comprehension?
"really unearned nods to diversity"

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[–] galahadfairlight (414) 6 years ago

Nothing wrong with my reading comprehension, the fact he mentions diversity AT ALL as a complaint.

I don't care if the movie made a "nod" toward a gay character, I don't much care about the wimmin teamup during the battle, its all just nonsense fluff in a comic book movie, just such baseless complaints.

What he's basically saying is the gay character was only nodded at, he wanted more than that.

Why?

Why does EVERY movie have to be a diversity ticklist, and then get moaned at if its "not quite diverse enough"?

Such bollocks.

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[–] JakeSWITCH (504) 6 years ago

"I don't care if the movie made a "nod" toward a gay character, I don't much care about the wimmin teamup during the battle, its all just nonsense fluff in a comic book movie"

"Why does EVERY movie have to be a diversity ticklist"


It seems like you care.

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[–] galahadfairlight (414) 6 years ago

Yeah, reading comprehension not strong with you is it?

Clown

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[–] BrunoAntony (1198) 6 years ago

The dude pointed out that you said you didn’t care about diversity and then, only a paragraph later, you’re crying about a “diversity ticklist” like a baby.

The other poster (Satan2016) was right. Your reading comprehension skills are embarrassing!

LOL

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[–] galahadfairlight (414) 6 years ago

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[–] BrunoAntony (1198) 6 years ago

Bro, the only one here getting upset about diversity and using ad hominem is you.

Three different people have pointed that out.

Now dry your eyes, go back to school, learn to read and toughen up while you’re at it.

LOOOOL!

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[–] galahadfairlight (414) 6 years ago

I couldnt give a toss either way.

That you need hand holding is your problem not mine.

And youre a clown, just calling it like i see it :)

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[–] AP (5288) 6 years ago

Thanos' action between this film and Infinity War are consistent (as are his actions in previous films).

Thanos has always been a narcissist. He will do horrible things to people for "noble" reasons, expect their loyalty, and then when people aren't grateful, he'll try to kill them. We see this with Nebula throughout the Guardians movies as well as Infinity War. The dude claims he cares about life and has convinced himself that's the case, but his actions absolutely show that he's a sadistic nutjob out to kill.

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[–] JakeSWITCH (504) 6 years ago

The "Infinity War"-version of Thanos explained his backstory and his rationale for wiping out half the population as a "mercy". He also spared the lives of several characters. At the start of "Endgame", he even says that he destroyed the Infinity Stones to avoid the temptation to further tinker with the universe.

In "Endgame", he's back to being a villain who wants to wipe out the universe and gloats about destroying Earth.

My problem was that Thanos in "Endgame" just seemed like a dumbed-down version of what was initially an interesting character (and the highlight of "Infinity War").

Just my opinion, though!

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[–] AP (5288) 6 years ago

A narcissistic person will regularly abuse those around them and then pat themselves on the back with bullshit about how generous and merciful they are. And yes, they are capable of acts of kindness because they are not 100% unfeeling (we know Thanos at least loves Gamora). If you've ever been around people like this, they get RRREEEEAAAAALLLY ugly when you stand up for yourself. That's when they double down on all the nastiness and they will tell you it's your fault.

When Thanos says he's going to wipe out the universe, he specifically says it's because people were ungrateful and tried to undo what he achieved. That's also typical behavior. That's why I brought up Nebula. He wanted to kill her because he felt she was ungrateful. Now that the universe is ungrateful, he wants to kill them too. In his mind, he did people a favor and they insulted him so he's justified in punishing them.

It's all consistent.

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[–] mikeflatley (761) 6 years ago

I do agree mid of movie wuz borin. Cap vs cap wuz borin as wid all stories 2 retrieve ze stonez.

But I’m fine wid Hemsworth or any panderin 2 minority or underrepresented groupz tho Paltrow in an iron suit is a bit too much.

Nebula is a grate character and I’m glad we get 2 see mo on her.

Beginnin and epic battle were ze best part of film.

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[–] Jehosaphet (1063) 6 years ago

Paltrow showing up in the suit was absolutely cringeworthy, IMO. It was a dramatic moment that seemed completely unearned...and I don't know, I can't help but dislike her in real life so can't say I wasn't a bit biased to begin with, but...yeah that...she shouldn't have had a moment, IMO. It felt goofy/awkward.

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[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

Really? How could you not enjoy an over stuffed and overhyped and not to mention overly long and mediocre Avengers movie?

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[–] actionkamen (23176) 6 years ago

Yea. What did he expect? Casablanca?

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