Sexism at its finest
I find it amusing people keep whining about the dad 'raping' anita while no one complains about the cops wife constantly doing the same with that beefcake synth.
shareShe's a woman, it doesn't count.
shareShe's a woman, it doesn't count.
Here's a real life example. Situation 1, an elderly woman is in a nursing home and a male attendant has sex with her. Situation 2, an elderly male is in the same nursing home and a woman nurse/attendant gives him a hand job. Both of the patients are old and mainly mentally out of it.
The prosecutor charges both of them with criminal sexual conduct (formerly known and more popularly known as 'rape.').
Who gets convicted by the jury and why???
I'm a lawyer and know of these kind of situations. People will see the female as having been taken advantage of and a guilty verdict is the outcome, but the male was just a lucky old man and the 'perp' goes free. It is why, still the case in most situations, a teenage boy having sex with an older woman is just part of his growing up and is to be lauded. But if it was a teenage girl, all bets are off. Even now when women are getting convicted it is usually b/c it is a teacher, but if a neighbor or family member, it is kept quiet.
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You don't sound like a lawyer at all.
Teachers are by law a separate class in statory rape due to authority clauses and in loco parentis considerations. In virtually all counties having an authoritative positions over a minor is recognized as an issue.
IE in countries where age of consent is 17, and a 17-year-old and a 40-year-old can legally have relations, if the older person is a teacher, a coach etc then it is a crime on the part of the older person.
So teachers are poor examples of your point
most people believe that the sin is with the sinner. like if i decide to cheat and go to get a hooker but dont find one or get arrested.. am i a cheater?
shareeven if the Courts get it right
the Media still has a double standard field day with the 'Predatory Male' if the student is a Female vs 'Lucky Male" if it's a Female Teacher...
the Media still has a double standard field day with the 'Predatory Male' if the student is a Female vs 'Lucky Male" if it's a Female Teacher...
Honestly it's not just the media. Ask any teenage guy between 14 to 18 if a guy their age who slept with a teacher was raped, I can guarantee you, most of them will ask if the teacher was hot.
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You are a lawyer? You must be thinking you are dealing with kindergartener's here.
shareSaying you're a lawyer on an internet forum doesn't make you a lawyer.
Sorry.
I think political correctness blinded you to the fact that these situations are where the terms "weaker sex" and so on are from. Women altough can do any job as men, and can be president and so on, still can be taken advantage of by men, and law must protect them. Equality cant exist here, for a good reason, not a bad one.
shareBefore I get flamed, I think women can and should do 99% of jobs, including top tier executives, ceos, us president, absolutely any job requiring mental, management, and leadership capabilities. There are no jobs women can't do because of inferiority or anything like that. But that being saying said any job is a bit of a falicy.
I used to work in construction. I saw women painters, dry wall hangers, even general contractors. But I never saw a woman hod carrier. I'm not saying their aren't some who could, but it's not a job that 99% (probably higher) of women (exceptions to every rule) can just show up and do. This and other jobs simply require movement of to much weight.
Before I get flamed, I think women can and should do 99% of jobs, including top tier executives, ceos, us president, absolutely any job requiring mental, management, and leadership capabilities. There are no jobs women can't do because of inferiority or anything like that. But that being saying said any job is a bit of a falicy.
As a woman, I appreciate your preamble. And I completely agree with you on both your arguments.
However, you fail in your logic at the end there:
I saw women painters, dry wall hangers, even general contractors. But I never saw a woman hod carrier. I'm not saying their aren't some who could, but it's not a job that 99% (probably higher) of women (exceptions to every rule) can just show up and do. This and other jobs simply require movement of to much weight.
It's not a job that most people (99% is a bit high a percentage in any situation, statistically speaking) could do, period. Most men nowadays have the muscular mass of breadsticks, and a cough potato build. Yet they believe that because of their XY chromosome and some BS about men being "biologically stronger", they could do anything better than a woman could.
I agree that most women couldn't do jobs that require a large amount of physical force but then most men wouldn't either. It's not about gender.
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wow. . . really, sure ok, women "can" do anything they want from a painter all the way up to president (not Hilary tho). The real question isn't if they can, but if they are willing to. You want to talk about equality, I look online and Feminists are yelling about making more women CEOs for companies. . . not because they worked long and hard to earn it, but for a quota of 50% male/female on the board. Just hand them that top tier position, because reasons.
You want those High top end jobs just handed to you, sure as soon as there are 50% females trash collectors, sewer maintenance workers, constructions workers, septic tank cleaners and every other dirty, unhealthy, unappreciated, and dangerous jobs out there left solely for men to do.
Men are the backbone of society, we built the roads, the buildings, the cars and technology and in today's world, we are somehow the enemy. Women love their victomhood, and will twist reality in anyway they can to make that true. the world doesn't care about men anymore, it hasn't for 50 years, if you're born with a dick, you are the enemy by default, not a infant boy, but a potential rapist. what feminist somehow miss as they try to force all young men in colleges to attend anti-rap classes, is that one day feminist will be forcing their sons and brothers into those classes. if all men are potential rapist does that include your father, brothers, and sons? or only the men you don't know?
In the past 20 to 30 years at least 70% of men portrayed in tv and film are made out to be bafoons, mainly husbands, for some reason the husband is "lucky" to have married his wife and couldn't possibly know how to do chores right or look after the children with out the help and instructions of the all knowing wife. Want clear examples of this, look at Homer from the Simpsons, or Everybody Loves Raymond. they are stupid and helpless without the wife to help them. what kind of effect does this have on society if we are tell young men that they are all dumb and violent by default?
stop asking us to let out our emotions if all you really want is to drink our male tears.
there is nothing wrong with masculinity. and if there is, for equality's sake, there is just as much wrong with femininity.
From the Feminist mouth itself. "If civilization had been left in female hands, we'd still be living in grass huts"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROjOjDMr43M
here's a look at equality
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK7n_XA40V8
Why men are abandoning marriage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrBOK8bnrW0
Feminists don't want equality, they want special treatment and double standards, all the rewards of being a man with none of the drawbacks.
Women altough can do any job as men, and can be president and so on, still can be taken advantage of by men, and law must protect them. Equality cant exist here, for a good reason, not a bad one.
I can't decide if you are trying to make an "anti-feminist" point (by trying to paint women as the weaker sex), a "pro-feminist" point (by trying to paint women as so "disadvantaged" that they need "special privileges" to make up the "disadvantaged position" that the "century old patriarchy" supposedly put them in) or if you are simply trolling.
Anybody, regardless of sex/gender, can be taken advantage of by anybody else. Just ask the hundreds of thousands of men around the world who are paying child-support for children who are not theirs or who have ruined themselves into bankruptcy by trying to please some gold-digger who was just after their money or those men who can't press charges for being raped because their countries definition of rape only covers the "female end". That's why actual equality should be more important than being yet another "bullet point" that third wave feminists try to shove down people's throats. share
If the kids weren't theirs, they wouldn't be paying for them.
shareIf the kids weren't theirs, they wouldn't be paying for them.
It's never as simple as that. Some men don't even want to question it because they still want to "stay in contact" with the woman, being naive enough to think that there's still a chance for a relationship. Some men don't question it because it's socially frowned at as it makes them look like they want to "dodge responsibility" and sometimes the issue as simple as not being able to pay for the maternity test.
And none of that goes into the issue that many countries have laws that make it impossible for men to get out of paying because their name is on the birth certificate. That's also something many men agree to because they don't want to be seen as "dodging responsibility" or because they had good faith in the woman's word.
How many men question if the baby is theirs if they are still in the relationship? Practically zero do, because questioning it is seen as a "lack of trust" by the woman and can destroy relationships. So men are pretty much forced to trust the woman's word.
http://wgno.com/2016/07/28/colorado-man-forced-to-pay-child-support-despite-dna-test-results/
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/iowa-man-forced-pay-child-support-baby-not-article-1.2578736
http://www.wxyz.com/news/judge-says-man-must-pay-30k-in-child-support-for-kid-who-is-not-his
https://www.myfloridalaw.com/child-support-law/paying-child-support-not-the-father/ share
People will see the female as having been taken advantage of and a guilty verdict is the outcome, but the male was just a lucky old man and the 'perp' goes free.
It all comes down to perception. If the guy had been sodomized, it would feel like something different happened. The fact that sex is penetrative or not, for women, and not, for men, makes a world of difference.
Also, since giving a hand job to someone doesn't bring anything to the perpetrator of the act, people tend to believe (rightly or not) that it's not rape. Male attendant getting his jollies off with a comatose woman gets something out of it.
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Funny...how Womens' double standards have gone from the household, out into the real world. Women now have us gobbling up their *beep* on a GLOBAL scale, and everyone is too scared to speak up about how morally bankrupt it is, because if you speak out you're a woman-hating pig etc etc. Nothing against women AT ALL...my eyes are just open
shareHere's a real life example. Situation 1, an elderly woman is in a nursing home and a male attendant has sex with her. Situation 2, an elderly male is in the same nursing home and a woman nurse/attendant gives him a hand job. Both of the patients are old and mainly mentally out of it.
The prosecutor charges both of them with criminal sexual conduct (formerly known and more popularly known as 'rape.').
Who gets convicted by the jury and why???
I'm a lawyer and know of these kind of situations. People will see the female as having been taken advantage of and a guilty verdict is the outcome, but the male was just a lucky old man and the 'perp' goes free. It is why, still the case in most situations, a teenage boy having sex with an older woman is just part of his growing up and is to be lauded. But if it was a teenage girl, all bets are off. Even now when women are getting convicted it is usually b/c it is a teacher, but if a neighbor or family member, it is kept quiet.
Your little story sounds as BS. Why would female nurse give male patient a hand job? What's in it for her? Despite popular misconception that every body part of female is erogenous zone, palm ain't one. As there's no way she'd be doing that, it tells me you have no idea what you're talking about, and you just made it up cause it sounds convenient. There are actually plenty of female on male rapes, and you're banalising actual issue with made up stories of crazed women giving hand jobs to people for no apparent reason.
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