So was the whole thing all a dream right from the beginning? When Max wakes up and sees his family, they act like nothing ever happened, and then Max tells everyone he just had a bad dream---then Max opens that present and sees that Krampus ornament, then the camera pans out to a snowglobe type display, then the monsters leap out and the movie ends----I don't get it! Can someone explain?
shareIt's meant as a reminder of the horror they have just overcome. It also lets them know Krampus is watching to make sure they don't forget their lessons. There's something sinister and cheeky in it.
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Max got his wish of having a nice Christmas like they used to. Now he has to live in that situation forever, as the punishment. Everyone else is dead. The other snow globes are filled with other people living out their own punishments. That's what I understood.
shareMax got his wish of having a nice Christmas like they used to. Now he has to live in that situation forever, as the punishment. Everyone else is dead. The other snow globes are filled with other people living out their own punishments. That's what I understood.
This makes sense, Agree with this.
Max got his wish of having a nice Christmas like they used to. Now he has to live in that situation forever, as the punishment. Everyone else is dead. The other snow globes are filled with other people living out their own punishments. That's what I understood.
No, I think it all happened but then the kid tried to take back his wish in the end and I guess he is able change what came before by gaining his Christmas spirit back or something like that. I thought it was kinda weak but also expected.
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My interpretation (probably posted earlier in this thread) was that they all had the same experience but forgot about it when they woke up, much like we often forget our nightmares/dreams in the morning. The Krampus ball, however, brought the experience back into their minds. The grandma's knowing look suggests she also never forgot what happened.
shareWhich makes being trapped in a snowglobe together on xmas morning even more hellish.
shareThe ending to me, is that he gave them a second chance and will be watching them through the snow globe to make sure they keep the faith. The otherworldly filter could be because we are watching it with him, through the globe, since it pans out like we are now watching from his POV. Plus, the music at the end(he sees you when you're sleeping) tells me he's watching them now.
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I don't know much about the specific, details of what krampus does to people once he takes them but I keep.hearing about dead frozen bodies in junk.yards and being put in a bat and turned into toys. This is Christmas meets hell raiser. In those movies humans are turned into cenobite a kind of demon with their body parts reconstructed into something horrible.
The scary clown doll is hiding under my bed.
In the prequel comic, which is Official by the same guy who did this movie, yes. Those who fail to learn their lesson or are incapable of learning their lesson, are stuffed in bags dead or alive, brought to Krampus' home (Which is not in the Underworld but in the North or South Pole) and the bagged bodies are put in a Junk Yard where they lie frozen. The Dark Elves then take the frozen bodies to their Toy Factory, where they toss the bodies into a gigantic vat and the bodies are turned into Krampus' toys.
sharetalk about a broken record! comic prequel...blah blah blah...interviews...official comic is canon...blah blah blah..shut up!!
shareYes, he is a broken record because the interviews and comics absolutely prove his point beyond a shadow of a doubt. I find it funny watching the horror fans desperately cling to a horror ending that isnt there, and to do so despite all of the evidence that proves a happy ending.
It sounds like you guys would deny it even if the screenwriter said point blank. "...and it had a happy ending."
And no, I have not read the comic.
"Some day you will be old enough to start reading fairy tales again." -- C.S.Lewis
I find it funny watching the horror fans desperately cling to a horror ending that isnt there
I don't know if it is an unhappy ending but it is no longer reality they are living in anymore.
I was curious so I Googled Snow-Globe symbolism and interestingly the two first examples I saw fit with my way of seeing the ending. The first was that it represents a child's imagination of what a perfect world is and the second was someone else creating what they think is the perfect world you want to live in is.
I saw the point of the Krmapus ornament as letting them know that they are no longer living in reality but an unnatural "perfect" dream world.
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Right on, that's a cool way of thinking of things.
sharethe original ending did NOT have the snow globe part... it ended when he sees the bell.
they obviously wanted to make a more shocking ending so they added the Snow globe and they added the Krampus workshop later
Which is way too horrific to be in a PG-13 film, thus the boy instead getting his wish of a picture (snowglobe) perfect Christmas for eternity.
NOTHING you have said or cited proves the purgatory theory wrong. The exact same article can suggest the opposite, and the source material can easily be adapted in other ways is is normal for film adaptions.
This ending is very open to interruption, but I'd suggest my interruption is more likely to be correct as it's a horror movie, and it makes perfect sense storywise.
The other way around makes it silly. "Uh oh, it really happened, we all almost died... good thing that's all over... OoOOo a new game system, let's play grand theft auto like we suddenly love eachother just because it's Christmas morning."
Being attacked under a car in the snow because my brother screwed us all over doesn't make me automatically want to hangout with my horrible family. Even if I thought it was a dream, I'd be in a bad mood and really want to get to my boyfriend as originally planned.
That's not real emotions in the beginning of that scene. That's a pseudo heaven purgatory where free will is at least temporarily suspended as a final kick in the pants.
Yeah, I was a bit confused about the ending. It's interesting to read about the theories though. I do think they were given a second chance. When the little boy opens the present they are all reminded that Krampus is watching over them. They are allowed to live, but have to live with the paranoia that comes with it every Christmas.
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THIS IS A HAPPY ENDING...
...eternal Christmas...
I don't get the "Christmas over and over again" at all. Where does that become a possibility -- how is it implied that the same day will be lived over an over again? We are witnessing the 'first' Christmas morning after Krampus... So where is it implied this day will be relived over and over? Will they re-discover the bell each time - so they live the same day but have no awareness they are living the same day? I do not really see how this conclusion is reached...?
...snow-globe prison...
The camera pans out through the window of Max's house and 'pops' into Krampus' world where it shows the household contained in a snow-globe. However when (a tad earlier) Max looks out the window he sees his neighborhood - restored and, well, there. If the family were trapped in a snow-globe then it would seem odd that Max (and presumably) the others could see the entire neighborhood. To me it seems that we are seeing the snow-globe in Krampus' "trophy room" of sorts. These are not trophies of souls he has captured but of those who he punished and who repented. He is watching the people he left behind (as a reminder).
...the bell...
In the story told by Omi, she was left as a reminder and given the bell to act as the catalyst for the memory. And in her story the implication did not seem to be that her loss of the Christmas spirit summoned Krampus directly - after all, she shared that EVERYONE in her town had lost the spirit - the implication was that her Christmas spirit kept Krampus from coming and, once her's was lost, he came because the entire town had lost spirit... Her "spirit" no longer was keeping him away. However, in Omi's story we hear that she "regretted" the decision and was left (as a reminder).
The same was true for Max. Everyone ELSE had already lost the Christmas spirit (in the movie defined as "the sacrifice of giving") but once Max lost the spirit, Krampus could come... Again, the implication being that the Christmas spirit keeps Krampus away.
Throughout the movie we see each character regain that spirit ('the sacrifice of giving')... I could list it individually but every character had lost spirit (Rosie the dog included) regained it -- repented. Just like Omi had done in the tale. And, they were ALL left as a reminder with the bell as the catalyst. A happy ending as the family is alive, not trapped in some eternal Christmas, and changed. They do however have the memory and responsibility that comes with "the bell".
There is more than one interpretation to the ending.
I believe this is the proper interpretation for the ending of Krampus:
Because Max ended up regaining his Christmas spirit, rescinding his wish and asking Krampus to restore everything to the way it was, Krampus granted Max his new wish. The family unit was restored and given a second chance. That's why they remembered what had happened when Max opened the gift and saw Krampus' bell. The grandmother's expression and the song at the end of the credits more or less reaffirms this ending.
If the family was in purgatory and trapped inside the snow globe forever, there would be no need for Krampus to have left Max a bell as a Christmas present Christmas morning. Yet, if Krampus wanted to take the family to directly hell, he would've done just that. There would be no need to trap the family inside a snow globe forever.
As for the snow globe itself, one could infer that Krampus has a globe of every home in the world and uses them to teleport to the real world, the snow globes are trophies and every snow globe represents a home that he had visited and helped or he's using them as "windows" into the real world to monitor the people and families who were given a second chance. Maybe it's a bit of all 3 inferences. Perhaps Krampus only has snow globes of homes he's visited and helped, but they're also a way to transport to the real world and monitor everyone given a second chance.
Anyhow, this is my take on the ending.
So was the whole thing all a dream right from the beginning?
My god 9 pages for that... it is simple... they will revive all of this over and over again !!! ;) Groundhog Day !
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No where no when, was it ever implied they were going to relive the SAME DAY over and over...
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It's implied by them looking out from the snowglobe, which is set as the scene from a Christmas morning.
Snowglobes don't change to spring. Snowglobes only show one scene. That's why we assume they will never get out of this christmas morning.
Did you see snowglobes of people vacationing in Australia for xmas in that final scene? No? because those are snow globes of purgatories, not of families to be kept an eye on. That would have to be a pretty crazy snowglobe purgatory or not if it could change depending on where the family was vacationing or working or wherever. You can't watch an entire family at once through a snowglobe unless they are trapped in that living room scene.
I guess someone didn't see the fiery pit or listen to what the grand mother was saying.
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