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Americans should be playing Americans


Yeah, I know the " Sons of Liberty" were the children , grand-children, etc. of British people but couldn't they find a bunch of American actors to play Americans? I'm sick and tired of British actors taking all the acting jobs. It's not like we don't have actors here.

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I knew there would be a thread like this on this board.

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English actors have taken over Hollywood. Not just a few roles but quite a bit. Normally it globalism doesn't bother because it works both ways however I doubt American actors get the chances they do in the UK or Australia. Some of the biggest African American roles have been taken by british actors, including MLK's role. I see a generation of great American actors missing out because Hollywood is enamored with foreign accents.

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I doubt American actors get the chances they do in the UK or Australia.

I doubt you have any evidence for that, just fear of other nations. Actors are working, people are getting paid. What difference does it make what country they're from? None, unless you just hate outsiders.

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British actors are working, Americans aren't. You're right, I can't find evidence that Americans can't find work acting abroad because when I search for it the results are inundated with articles about brits acting the US.

You can toss out the ethnocentric card all you want, but the Redfords, Nicholsons, and Streeps of this generation will go by the wayside and into other careers.

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This is the sort of unfounded, ill-informed and non-sensical kind of comment that causes friction between nations!

It's ludicrous to think that the next Redford, Nicholson or Meryl Streep will go by the wayside because of some kind of 'Brit invasion'. If any actor coming through is as good as the people you've mentioned, they're going to be just fine!

But let's take a look at Meryl Streep for a second: won a Golden Globe for her role in Sophie's Choice where she adopted a Poilish accent; won a Bafta for The French Lieutenant's Woman and an Oscar for The Iron Lady, and in both roles she used a BRITISH ACCENT!

Your theory is seriously flawed.





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Using any search engine from a US address will give you results >95% related to the US. But, even if you're correct, I ask again, so what? The production companies hire people based on them being right for the part. You're saying that actors should be hired based on nationality instead of qualifications. Every job I've ever gotten was the result of my qualifications. I don't think I'd feel good knowing I got hired to fill a quota. Why are you promoting mediocrity?


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The production companies hire people based on them being right for the part. You're saying that actors should be hired based on nationality instead of qualifications.


Are you saying no American actors are qualified to play these parts? I say B.S. to that. I have no doubt the casting decisions come down to economic reasons. Either the foreign actors work cheaper or the production companies feel they can market the film or TV show in Britain or Australia if they feature actors from those countries. It always comes down to money.

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No, I didn't say that. They filmed this show in Romania. The closest place to there with a large population of English-speaking actors is the UK, so that's where they auditioned. In other words, money certainly did play a part. If you had read the whole thread, you'd have seen that the guy I was responding to thought we should have a quota of American actors. With the additional cost in transportation, the budget would require cuts elsewhere, resulting in lower production quality. British actors were the best quality for the price.

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The point is, the idea that producers select actors because they're "right for the part" or "the best actor for the job" is a smokescreen. It's P.R. nonsense.
It's all about the money.

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If it were only about the money, they'd always hire unknowns so they could pay them next to nothing.

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Have you considered the possibility that the US isn't turning out the caliber of actor that we once did? For years I have been noticing that the old greats are dying off, and very few of the newer actors can compare to them.

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Well actually you are wrong. They do get chances haven't you noticed that Romania is part of Europe which is where this movie was made, which happen to be where? outside of the US or did you think that Romania was the 51st state? My two cents is just because it's about American history, that does not mean Americans have to be imported to Europe to make a movie. And legally spoken those Brits have more rights playing in this movie than any american does... sorry, no disrespect intended ...

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You're disagreeing with a line I quoted that was written by evansmobile. Your position is the same as mine.

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oh ahaha sorry was indeed meant for him...

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Ah correction this is a movie about Americans it's however not an american movie... other people can than Americans can make Hollywood styled movies too. I see how easily someone like you could get confused about something like that. Everyone thinks that Romania lies in Hollywood :)

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I'm more concerned that Big Jim Renny is playing Benjamin Franklin. Very distracting.

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Why do you think British Actors work cheaper? Look at the awards. The imitation game, the theory of everything, into the woods etc etc. American actors star in british movies and series. Look at Penny dreadful, Josh Hartnett starring.

When you produce a series you hope will have some authenticity, would you portray a colonist from the time of the pilgrims say, with a brooklyn accent??

And the next one to say why don't they speak american, i won't even go there, considering american is not a language, it is english, which is a culmination of latin, greek, germanic, gaelic

Just my few pennies worth

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Actors are actors: if it is in their range to play a part well nobody should care where their ancestors came from.

Isn't anybody going to get bent out of shape that Romania "played" colonial Massachusetts?

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I don't see why it matters where the actor is from. As long as they play the part well. Look up the cast of Band Of Brothers. Half the American soldiers were from either Australia, Britain, Scotland, or Ireland.


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Well you have to remember, the first Americans were British colonists. Also, they're actors. An actor's job is to act, and if they're good at their job, it doesn't matter what country they're from.

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I would think because American actors join SAG-AFTRA. Any decent actor will have joined this union. They will want at least actors with experience and once they join the union, then the production company is locked into paying those wages. I googled to find an approximation of salary for american actors, they earn approximately $52,000 per year. Once in the union they are not allowed to take any work that hasnt gone through the union. They are not allowed to act for less than the wage provided by the union, they are not allowed to play for free. There are work conditions that are in place for american actors.

In England average actors earn approximately £5,000 per year. They can work for cheaper wages, they can work for free. They can work for long hours.

So who do you think they would hire?

Why do you think many British actors are getting work in America? Even if the company pays for a years salary for a British actor it's a lot cheaper.

Why do you think that so many movies are filmed outside of the US?

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