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I won't say the show is awful, but....


Please, this is just my opinion. I am in my 50s, happily married. Just MY opinion, so please, politely phrased criticism, don't start telling me I am a bitch, or narrow minded, etc. please

I have watched three episodes. I like almost all the actors and actresses, never was a Jane Fonda fan, but she is pretty and talented. Nice to see older actors and actresses like Michael Gross, Craig T Nelson, etc, acting.

I really kind of cringe when I watch this. To hear people who are well educated, refined (characters and actors) drop the "f" word, to me, is poor writing. The shock value wore off a long time ago. Don't need the lewd or the profane. Make the show intelligent. Do you hear your grandparents or parents saying what these characters do? Do I need jokes about heterosexual or homosexual sex being a good portion of the dialog? Do I need to see men kissing men over and over? What happened to leaving something to the imagination? I am not a "homophobe", implying I am AFRAID of homosexuality. I just am getting tired of it being shoved in my face and demanding I like it and accept it in any form parlayed to me. And if I don't, something is wrong with ME.

I feel like our morals and sense of values become more and more rejected. I'm sorry, I know I can change the channel, so to speak. And I watched 3 episodes so that I gave it a fair chance. I just find it a distasteful show. I think the fine actors and actresses on this show deserve better vehicles to showcase their talents. They are the only thing that is keeping this new program from being ridiculous.

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i think you missed the whole point of this show.. this show is all about realism.. i.e., mirroring the reality of what actually goes on out there in america.. a world where some folks happen to be gay, some happen to be struggling to overcome drug addiction, alcoholism, etc., a world where some couples have less than perfect relationships, a world where divorces happen, and world where the f bomb is used behind closed doors among adult family members and friends.. if the 'real world' frightens you so, perhaps you'd be happier watching reruns of 'father knows best'..

it wasn't the fall from her 16th-floor penthouse that killed her, it was the landing

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*Realism* on this show, haha. So if spouses cheat, there's no foul if they're gay. It really sucks to live in a $MM beach house too. No one has a job either!

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No one has a job either!


Robert and Saul are high powered attorneys; Grace is the retired CEO of a cosmetics company, which she turned over to her daughter; and Frankie is an artist and art instructor. For a bunch of 70 year olds they seem to work more than most people.

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So if spouses cheat, there's no foul if they're gay.


This is a gross generalization and a complete oversimplification of the situation presented in the show. And I think you know it.

It really sucks to live in a $MM beach house too.


I agree that, as a "regular" working-class person who isn't affluent, trying to relate to these characters who are all wealthy is somehwat of a challenge. Especially when their wealth is on display in virtually every scene. It becomes a distraction, much more so than their sexual orientation is to some folks in this thread.

The movie "It's Complicated" suffers from the same issues of relatability.

No one has a job either!


This is also pure ignorance of the material. All of the kids have jobs. Sol and Robert still work at their firm. Frankie still teaches, Grace is retired and independently wealthy but still wants to work to stay busy.

Seriously, have you even watched more than one episode of this series?

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