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awful, awful awful!!!


Has everybody taken leave of their senses? This is terrible acting - Rylance walking from one building to the next with a smear on his face does not constitute good acting and the plot is so deep it has drowned. Great costumes and lighting but I think it's about time we recognized that the king is in his altogether - yes remember the Emperor's New Clothes.

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I have to agree with the original poster.

I love me a period drama and the sets and costumes were lush but it was so slow and ponderous that it was hard to get involved in it. In fact, I came here to see if I had missed the current episode/s only to find it ended without an ending.

PBS' preview Inside the Court of Henry VIII was far more interesting and even more entertaining.

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Mixed feelings. It is certainly not awful. But I wish it was a little better. So far (just finished episode 3) I like the 1970s BBC production "The Six Wives of Henry VIII" (Keith Michell, Wolfe Morris, Dorothy Tutin) better.

It is a bit flat, ponderous, and dare I say it, undramatic at times.

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I have to agree with the original poster.

I love me a period drama and the sets and costumes were lush but it was so slow and ponderous that it was hard to get involved in it. In fact, I came here to see if I had missed the current episode/s only to find it ended without an ending.


Agree. It's a show I really want to enjoy and love - but for some reason, I just can't enjoy it as much as I want to. It's rather slow and draggy...I feel as though the story could have been told already in half the time.


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I have to say the film A Man For All Seasons takes a lot of beating.

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I dragged myself through three episodes. And as each episode progressed I found myself doing more and more - other things.

It dawned on me that no connection had been established with any character and the events were playing out as if read by a monotone narrator.


Life's too short to watch any more.

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the plot is so deep it has drowned.
Perhaps that is your real problem. I think of the plot as brilliantly and finely nuanced.....you think of it as drowned in depth. To each his own, and lots of options out there these days.

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Different strokes. I thought Rylance's performance was incredible and the plotting impeccable.

"Emperor's new clothes" is the kind of self-serving thing people in the minority tell themselves to rationalize their dissent as something bold and praiseworthy. But the truth is, you just have different preferences.

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That is all true, of course. I was just so impressed by the cast of A Man For All Seasons and found Henry VIII, Cromwell and Wolsey a bit boring - try the movie yourself and see what I mean.

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ha ha - I meant to say I found those characters boring in Wolf Hall!!!

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I didnt like this either, to me it looked almost too cheap ie:to me the costumes looked like they were from a halloween store. The performances seemed too wooden as well-but to each their own!

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I was just so impressed by the cast of A Man For All Seasons and found Henry VIII, Cromwell and Wolsey a bit boring - try the movie yourself and see what I mean.

I've seen a Man for All Seasons, but it was when I was much younger -- probably too young to fully appreciate it. Perhaps I'll give it another shot.

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I tried the movie. I love it. I've loved it since its release. It's on my short list of perfect films. I also love Wolf Hall. Different perspective, different emphases, different focus, i.e. More (who, incidentally, really did think torturing "heretics" was necessary) as opposed to Cromwell. I'm not sure why people seem to find these works' merits mutually exclusive.

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What a bunch of nonsense.

Why should anyone care if you think something is 'boring'? Do you actually hold yourself in such high regard that you think your personal tastes and preferences are actually anything but subjective? I just don't get why people are so *beep* dumb these days.

Wolf Hall is certainly not for everyone. I know why people might find it boring, but, I also do not care. I don't care if you think something is boring, no one does. Go eat a dick.

Not every show needs to be puffed up with drama and over-acted. Points could be made as to historical inaccuracy, but to call it 'boring' is jackassery. I used to always complain about being bored when I was 8 years old. How old are you guys?

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By the same token do you think anybody cares what you think. I was never bored by it or anything but it was boring in a critical kind of way. If you don't like what people write on here don't read it. You see we don't care that you don't care just as you don't care what we care about and guess what? I wrote this without need for all the beeps you needed. But to say no one cares is a bit silly - how do you know that idiot?

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The 'need for all the beeps'? I didn't realize anyone was counting, or that 'beeps' are some sort of resource that are ever 'needed' or 'not needed'.

'If I don't like what I read why do I read it?' Good question.

"But to say no one cares is a bit silly - how do you know that idiot?" Yes, it is a bit silly. It's such a tiresome point though, if anyone can claim that 'no one cares' about something, or can call something truly boring, it's this.

I'm sorry that my post upset you. I don't even remember what I wrote and I'm not actually interested enough to go back and read it. All I remember is that I read a whole bunch of nonsense, had a 'I can't believe people are so stupid' moment, and felt compelled to write something in response to it all.

To bring this back to the actual topic of the thread, 'boring in a critical kind of way'? I guess I just fundamentally disagree with you, probably on almost everything. The word 'boring' typically denotes a negative connotation, does it not? If Wolf Hall is not 'boring', why would you call it such? 'It's boring but it's not boring.' I know what you mean, but it's still nonsense, and it's a terrible way of describing something. It's not boring, and it's a shame that you feel obliged to say it is. Do not enough words exist in the English language to pick a descriptor that actually describes how you feel about the show, without throwing in intrinsically negative ones that you don't even actually agree with? 'Boring in a critical way' doesn't mean anything, it's dumb.

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YES, it's everyone else that's taken leave of our senses, your's are perfect, lol.. like the SNL character played by Martin Short, the evil corporate dude being caught, who always says "It's all of THEM right, it's not ME, right?"

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awful, awful awful!!!


good, good good!!!



There. Just balancing the universe out.

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Like?

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Rylance has been critically and popularly acclaimed for his performance in this excellent series.
The subtlety in his responses, especially to those of higher social standing,
is wonderfully delivered, just as you would expect from a person in his position and in his time and place.
Having watched innumerable films and documentaries dealing with Henry VIII over many years, I was at the stage of losing interest in further portrayals of this flawed and ultimately wretched monarch but Wolf Hall, in every respect, has proved to be a marvelous account of him and his time as ruler.

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