Did petit realy walk across the TT? There is no footage he does
Only foto's. I found that strange when i saw the docu Man on Wire
shareYes he did. Here is a great documentary about it.
http://m.imdb.com/title/tt1155592/
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Why would there be a conspiracy otherwise? This was well reported when it occurred.
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But again no footage. They brought camera's but didnt use it. Ther was a camera when the police caught him but no footage. Even in the seventies there where consumercameras
shareSo your are saying that in the middle of Manhattan, no one noticed a guy walking on tightrope across the TT in mid day? Maybe he used a tether, but that is as far as you can take this conspiracy theory. Thousands saw him.
As hard as it is to believe, everyone forgot to charge their iphones that day unfortunately!
shareIt wasn't midday. Its was early in the AM. Sheesh. Anybody my age or older remembers this.
shareConspiracy for dummies.
There's no footage: tell the event didn't happen. (example: Philippe Petit)
There's footage: tell the footage is fake and the event didn't happen. (example: Moon landing)
You know what, that is kind of strange. But didn't he do it without giving notice to anyone? He gets arrested right? I dunno, I'm too lazy to google it right now. Not many people had portable videocameras on them back then so there's that. And maybe if the news got there, they didn't want to film in case he fell to his death?
shareThats just silly, newsreporters would film that even if he fell. He walked longer Then one hour so someone should have filmed that. He even brought his own cameras
shareThis is 1974, nobody is carrying a movie camera in their pocket. It's early morning during a workday and this isn't promoted. How much news footage occurs from a flashmob or any other spontaneous event today that ISN'T from a cellphone? There just isn't time to get there and setup before it's all over.
shareI worked on Floor 103 of the North Tower at the time. I came in from NJ that day on the Path train, which let out under the tower. When I got up to the office, a bunch of people had seen him, but I missed out by about a half hour.
We're sitting there like idiots, drinking coffee without a piece of cake!
I'm too lazy to google it right now, but not many people had portable videocameras on them back then so there's that.
In 1974 there were no 'portable videocameras' (or IPhones or Smartphones).
A 35mm camera is big, expensive and heavy.
The only formats that could have been used to film him were 16mm and Super8.
Wikipedia:
Launched in 1965, Super 8 film comes in plastic light-proof cartridges containing coaxial supply and take-up spools loaded with 50 feet (15 m) of film
The silent 16 mm format was initially aimed at the home enthusiast, but by the 1930s it had begun to make inroads into the educational market. The addition of optical sound tracks and, most notably, Kodachrome in 1935, gave an enormous boost to the 16 mm market. Used extensively in WW2, there was a huge expansion of 16 mm professional filmmaking in the post-war years. Films for government, business, medical and industrial clients created a large network of 16 mm professional filmmakers and related service industries in the 1950s and 1960s. The advent of television production also enhanced the use of 16 mm film, initially for its advantage of cost and portability over 35 mm. At first used as a news-gathering format, the 16 mm format was also used to create television programming shot outside the confines of the more rigid television studio production sets. The home movie market gradually switched to the even less expensive 8 mm film and Super 8 mm format.
I don't know why they didn't use Super8 or 16mm.
For a news team with 45 minutes pre-warning would probably be too short to get it on film.
It was over before they got the news.
But all the witnesses, the many pictures and the documents from his arrest should be enough to believe it happened. share
PHILIPPE PETIT: Well I was extremely frustrated that there were no moving images but I worked on getting moving images in the sunset besides my friend taking pictures from the other roof. Also, I gave him a movie camera and after taking some pictures, he was supposed to rush to the movie camera and take a few live frames except at that moment when he went to the movie camera, the police came. So he hid and ran to show his picture to the world and I thank him for that, but there was no film and at the time, I was so distressed. I was furious about this slap from destiny. But now, years and years later, I am so happy that there are no moving images and that allows the story to now be shown by a very talented director on the screen [Man on Wire] and in a way it’s great that there were no moving images now.
We're sitting there like idiots, drinking coffee without a piece of cake!
Thank you, now there is the answer by Petit himself (and James Marsh, director of "Man on Wire")...
MoviesOnline: Why wasn’t it filmed? How frustrated were you when you realized after you got off that it hadn’t been filmed?share
PHILIPPE PETIT: Well I was extremely frustrated that there were no moving images but I worked on getting moving images in the sunset besides my friend taking pictures from the other roof. Also, I gave him a movie camera and after taking some pictures, he was supposed to rush to the movie camera and take a few live frames except at that moment when he went to the movie camera, the police came. So he hid and ran to show his picture to the world and I thank him for that, but there was no film and at the time, I was so distressed. I was furious about this slap from destiny. But now, years and years later, I am so happy that there are no moving images and that allows the story to now be shown by a very talented director on the screen and in a way it’s great that there were no moving images now.
MoviesOnline: James, is that how you feel?
JAMES MARSH: I have the same reaction as Philippe, the frustration that they were so close to getting them and the fact that there was a loaded camera. You think, oh my God, that was just so close, but I think had there been footage, it would have been probably very familiar and it may have diminished some of the mystery and the beauty of it just because it’s so literal. And the photographs I find are wonderful and they’re kind of frozen moments of perfection in time and so you embrace that and try and create the drama and the beauty of the walk by letting people just invest themselves in those images and the wonder of that to me is still worth contemplating whereas film doesn’t really let you contemplate in the same kind of way. So it’s making a virtue out of a necessity really but I think we did make a virtue out of it.
http://www.moviesonline.ca/movienews_15128.html
Also, I gave him a movie camera and after taking some pictures, he was supposed to rush to the movie camera and take a few live frames except at that moment when he went to the movie camera, the police came.
I would've beat the sh!t out of that friend, if I were he. Talk about it all being for naught. Also, he should've done the film footage first, and then still photos, if there was time. The former would've been more impressive.
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I was getting ready for work and they got the story on the radio after it had started but as it was happening. I could not have stood there and watched if I had been nearby. I came to read about the movie but doubt I'll be able to watch even though I know he completed it safely.
shareI was very young at the time & I have vague memories of footage of Petit. This must have been what I saw:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc-4Z9SHBs8
I do remember a news story about Petit walking between the Towers.
SINS NOIR
(Black movie sins):
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfoxduzSJwi0yun_U4kt1RQ
wow what were the buildings like inside? I mean, just standard offices? After all that has happened memories must be fresh about those buildings
shareI'm sure each floor differed, and many changed over the 25 years since I was there only a few years after they went up. The floors were 208 ft square, so walking from one side to the other took a while. This was the map of a lower floor.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e4/World_Trade_Center_Building_Design_with_Floor_and_Elevator_Arrangement.svg/2000px-World_Trade_Center_Building_Design_with_Floor_and_Elevator_Arrangement.svg.png
The express elevators didn't come up to us, so ours differed a bit. We had to catch a local elevator at the 78 skylobby. We may have been the highest occupied floor other than Windows on the World on 107. Upper floors were a/c and other things building related.
I was there when the they were still trying to fill up with tenants, so our floor was very open. Managers had window offices. 3-window stripes was a low-level manager. 5 or 6 was upper level. The high level execs were on the north side facing down on uptown and the Empire State blg. That part was really nice - only saw it once. I was in a big open area with desks and lots of windows facing NJ, though I could walk to a spot with a south view and had a direct sight of the wire and South tower. One large part of the floor was our mainframe computer room, which had to be kept quite cold.
Wrote this a month after the Towers fell.
For three summers in the 70s, I spent college breaks working on floor 103 in the north tower. Through the narrow windows, I saw helicopters and lightning storms below me, looked down on the great Empire State, and watched the so-called tall ships of ’76 come into the harbor, seemingly toys.share
If I was somehow alone in the bedroom-sized elevator to floor 78, I knew the precise time to jump to soar like Dr. J.
I knew the building was built to sway when I was sitting on the john; I could feel it creaking.
There was little to fear. Evacuation drills meant taking the stairway to floor 101, "dropping below the fire." Admittedly, there was one thing that frightened me. It came up and down the face of the building like Kong, filling my field of vision – the massive robot window washer waving its menacing brushes and dials.
Fascinating. Thanks for sharing!
shareYou can't be serious with this question. YES, he walked across it. He was out there for a long time. It was the early 1970's NOT 2015 where everyone has a video camera on their phone.
BTW, Phones had cords and rotary dials on them... and get this, you could dial in a number and actaully talk to someone on the other end of the call. It was called a phone call. That was the world without text messaging
"I don't want your watch, man. I want your friendship!" - Lightfoot
Obviously you're too young and stupid to understand that today's technology of videos everywhere including your cell phones didn't exist in the early 1970s.
shareI grew up in the 80s and 90s. Cell phones that take pictures and record video never existed pre-2000. I was high school class of '99 and feel I barely got out before the cell phone revolution when kids started bringing them to school and using them during class. Portable video cameras existed in the 80s but they were VERY expensive and few people had them. I'm quite sure very very few people were walking around New York with portable video cameras even further back than that in 1974.
Get busy livin' or get busy dyin'...
...That's god damn right.
Anyone on the street with any type of camera would need a telephoto lens because of the distance, too.
shareYes, people, but we were talking' about news helicopter footage…
There was a helicopter, I think.
But is there footage ?
I don't care if it's Super8, 16mm, 35mm or Video…
So is there any footage or none at all?
Not even where you see him like an ant in the distance?
Petit should have taken better care of that:
If your stunt can't be repeated, always use 2 cameras, kids.
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And even portable video cameras were available then:
Ikegami introduced the first truly portable hand-held TV camera in 1962.share
Handheld color cameras did not come into general use until the early 1970s - the first generation of cameras were split into a camera head unit (where the body of the camera, containing the lens and pickup tubes was, and held on the shoulder or a body brace in front of the operator) connected via a cable bundle to a backpack CCU (Camera Control Unit).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_video_camera
It was a police helicopter, not a news helicopter.
The Ikegami camera you're referring to was a huge professional camera - the type they used for news broadcasts at the time. Very expensive too.
There was a news helicopter with a traffic reporter but unfortunately it was for radio so no live video. Good news is there is some audio.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=533_1251152249
My guess is that most news footage was shot on video and reused. A lot of old footage looks muddy, anyway.