Biggest Female Trope Woman Character Ever Created In The History Of Film

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How did this "Mary Sue" crap get so popular? It's pretty f'in stupid.

I agree , I noticed that her body shape doesn't look strong. Also her attitude with her partner.

Frankly, one of the things I liked about the movie was that the girl didn't miraculously develop the abilities of a Delta Force operator and prove that she was their equal or better as a warrior. That would be the real "Mary-Sue."

Also, I assumed she (and virtually everyone else) was throwing up because of the stench of dozens of rotting bodies that had suddenly been released in highly concentrated form from behind the sheetrock where it had been building up for weeks or months in Arizona, one of the hottest climates in the U.S. For her part, she seemed much less affected than her partner and the many other team members out retching in the yard. So why didn't the bosses react the same way? Perhaps it was because the concentration had had time to clear some when they got there. I also think that the scene of these hardened, experienced FBI agents reacting this way was meant to indicate that the evil nature of the enemy they faced was several levels of magnitude beyond anything they had ever experienced.

Obviously her character doesn't have the value system the OP expects of someone in her position (values I'm not here to condemn). Instead, as a law enforcement officer, she was wary of violating multiple laws, international agreements, etc. She is also trained far differently from CIA agents and military special forces, who exist to bend, tweak, and shatter rules.

Instead, she's looking to gather evidence for court cases, as she was trained to do, and balking at doing things that ran counter to that goal. The operators and her superiors constantly correct her and offer justifications, but in the end there's no getting around the fact that they were violating the laws and aiding the horrifcally violent Colombian Medellin Cartel to regain hegemony in the drug trade because the powers that be viewed Medellin as the lesser of two evils. Of course, this is the cartel built by Pablo Escobar, a criminal so depraved that he blew up a jetliner with over a hundred passengers aboard in order to kill a single politician, and Escobar used his own lawyer as the unwitting carrier of the bomb. Eventually, the same U.S. operatives as those portrayed in this film -- Delta Force -- helped the Colombians assassinate Escobar, later posing triumphantly over his body like that dentist with his lion.

Americans have always accepted the occasional transgression in what we've regarded as extraordinary circumstances. However, before 9/11 and the policy directives that followed, we could at least pretend to be outraged when an enemy displayed a captive American who had obviously been beaten or tortured, and we could readily claim that we never shot in the back or sucker-punched anyone. Of course that was always bull, but now we don't even get to pretend it isn't because we openly embrace tactics and policies that would have been unthinkable for the majority of our existence.

So, maybe she was portrayed unrealistically. I doubt her behavior was as unlikely as the OP proposes, but I'm not in a position to say for certain. Nevertheless, I would argue at the very least that she was the avatar for those of us who don't agree that the end always justifies the means. Isn't this the same argument someone has Jack Nicholson make in A Few Good Men, that some of us "can't handle the truth?" I agree that things are never black and white, but there are some lines that shouldn't be crossed, or we're no better than those we call enemies and criminals.

For my part, I was glad that the script had Alejandro kill the wife and children. Anything else would have rung false to who he was and what this conflict represented. The movie allows all of us to validate our beliefs, whatever they are. Some will see it as a lesson in the reality we face today, and others will use it as an example of the lawlessness and hypocrisy of our government. For my part, I can't say I think the movie promotes one side or another, but like most good art is just lays out what the question really is. Hopefully, the best of us will use it in just that way, to question who we are and what we are doing, whatever answers we may ultimately draw from it.

What you are describing is 100% correct. She's completely unbelievable as a battle hardened tactical agent.

Her character is written out to be a mental invalid.

By the way, that is not a "Mary Sue" character. You need to look that up. Mary Sue means someone that is perfect at everything they do. Her character is exactly the opposite.

She wasn't HRT or even SWAT, but neither has that much to do with body weight. FBI has one HRT (divided into two sub-teams) and they're all in Quantico. They have about six regional SWATs for whom the gig is full-time or nearly so (they're probably all hoping to be HRT someday I imagine). Past that, the FBI has office-SWAT-teams for the lower-risk ops, but for those teams the SWAT gig is an extra duty and they're still working cases, or intel, or whatever their "day-job" is. In any case she didn't seem to be on the office SWAT team either. Her gear and patches were different and she was introduced several times as being on the kidnapping task force, which was a real interagency thing put together in the Phoenix area in response to multiple, ostensibly-drug-related and often-unreported kidnappings. One of the probably-unrealistic facets of the opening scene was the apparent dynamic of the investigative case officer(s) making entry WITH the SWAT; usually, a case officer would wait on their crime scene to be secured by the tactical team, rather than tag along as part of the entry. This intentional "mistake" was made even more blatantly on multiple shows, from Law & Order (they went in right behind ESU at least once a month) to one of the darkest detective shows I've ever seen: Se7en ("SWAT goes before Diks!" - they should have tripped him as he ran past).

I think I noted a couple other posts explaining theories on the lead character: one "normal" cops who's getting jaded by all she's seen but then experiences a radical metric shift she can barely process as right or wrong before moving to the next op. They stuck in the bank scene to show she's a conventional cop at heart, which helped explain a little how confused and frustrated the "average" cop may get.

Oh, yeah, I don't think it's "Delta Force" which I think may've been a nickname perpetuated by a another movie (that one I didn't see, so I could be wrong). I think Delta is the alphabetical designation of the Special Forces Detachment with the counter-terrorism & hostage rescue duties, though I think even those designations may've changed a little as the special operations communities have re-organized or merged in some ways. Good post though, thank you for the good read.

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Nope. That girl from the latest Star Wars who can use the force better than anyone in just one film is one.

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