Why do so many people try to make Captain Hook a good guy?
In both Once Upon a Time and this movie Captain is a good guy. This isn't like the Robin Hood stories where its based on a legend with no identified author and no official story.
shareIn both Once Upon a Time and this movie Captain is a good guy. This isn't like the Robin Hood stories where its based on a legend with no identified author and no official story.
shareWell ouat Captain Hook is pretty close to the book actually.
shareGee, perhaps I should read the book again. I don't remember Hook looking like some pretty boy who couldn't act to save his life.
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Gee, perhaps I should read the book again. I don't remember Hook looking like some pretty boy who couldn't act to save his life.
Isaacs is the best Hook ever. Followed by Danny Kaye
sharePeter Pan is also a kind of a self-involved jerk in the book (I don't know about the history of the stage play) who kind of remembers and forgets things at a whim of what's interesting to him at the moment. He's the symbol of childhood innocence in that "big pictures" don't really matter and so doesn't think about big pictures and dangers. Peter is portrayed as a kid 100% concerned with the fun moment right in front of him. So the second you try to give him and Hook some grander origin story then Hook got injured in one of there many battles (just another game for Peter in his many games in Neverland), you are now in questionable revisionist history for me.
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The original version of J.M. Berryies Hook was a minor character, but also the one who rescues the Darling Children and Returns them Home; Peter Pan was the Villain, so this isnt a new idea.
share...You are an idiot. That is not how the book went at all.
"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf
Which one? Peter Pan came in stages before crystallising into the general story we know today. Hook was originally a Minor Character created for the play who got the Children back to England safely after they left Peter Pan, who was basically the Villain in the story.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Hook
His role gradually morphed into the Principle Antagonist to Peter Pan and from there as a Villain as the Stage Play evolved.
LOL okay, I bit on that one, looked it up ON THE LINK YOU PROVIDED, and it says NOTHING about anything you described.
shareThis isn't like the Robin Hood stories where its based on a legend with no identified author and no official story.
Sometimes people who are good become so full of anger though....I don't remember if I had read the book or not, it was a long time ago that i owned it..... but... the fact that many movies say how Peter Pan chopped off Hooks hand and threw it to a crocodile would make Hook hate Peter Pan. I'd imagine anything that made Peter Pan happy would make Hook want to destroy it. I mean not many people would completely get over losing their own hand by a kid who was either their friend or enemy.
shareIn both the Disney cartoon and the movie 'Hook', he is evil.
Seems an even split, actually.
Again, this is an origin story. Hook starts out good, probably goes bad later. If this film had been better, we might have had a shot at a sequel where he turns on Peter. But that's not likely to happen.
No, it's not. By Popular Demand.
shareAt least not by this director and writer. I maintain that the actors did the best with what they had. :D
sharehow would they spin Hook becoming bad if he marries that warrior princess?
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Actually, there's still several ways they could. Marriage, if anything, raises the stakes for a character. Just look at Anakin Skywalker in the Star Wars prequels. He married Padme and then went mad trying to protect her.
James Hook may be roguish, like Han Solo, but that doesn't mean he can't get devoted to something. If he is devoted to Tiger Lily, anything happening to her could drive him crazy.
Garrett Hedlund specifically said that Hook is a selfish creature and tends to only look out for number one. This also makes him a wild card and possibly apt to join up with whatever party is in the lead at the time. Perhaps he gets annoyed at Peter's boyishness, stature, or the simple fact that Peter knows his place in the world while Hook does not.
Garrett revealed that Hook's accent is Midwestern and he is American. He definitely indicated that he knows more about Hook's backstory and that Hook actually DOES know where he came from. Garrett also stated that Hook 'learned everything he knows' from Blackbeard. This is a relationship we don't see in the films, and indicates that either Hook and Blackbeard knew each other and/or worked together. (I think I read somewhere that Hook was a boatswain to Blackbeard? I don't remember completely.). It also sets up the possibility of Blackbeard 'coming back' (because do you truly die in Neverland?) to take Hook 'back' under his wing and further poison him towards Peter.
The interview I am referencing is here: http://collider.com/pan-garrett-hedlund-talks-hook-sequels-and-more-on-set/
probably i could see an old decaying blackbeard influencing hook and turning him dark.
sharetoo much Star Wars in Pan is what killed it :P
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I was wondering about this as well.
I haven't watched Peter Pan (Disney Cartoon) since I was little and don't remember it well, but remember the movie Hook. Captain Hook was always bad as far as I knew.
In this movie he and Pan were friends, so was wondering why Hook was a good guy in this, and where this story would go next if it continued...
The original story hints that Pan and Hook had a long, long history prior to our entry into the story. We can only speculate, so let us speculate away! The idea is that Hook was once a Lost Boy, too. This movie also states he was a Lost Boy, that he had been in the mines his entire life.
shareI've read that in the book Pan even kills some of the children, not sure how true that is.
Anyway. Peter Pan has been extremelly explored over the years. In the last decades, the old USA/Disney idea of the good guy and the bad guy got boring. It's not black or white, life is more like anime vilians.
Second, Hook had had his suffering time, by losing his hand and being trapped on a land where kids can fly and bully him because he's adult. It's not good to plot somebody like that as a bad guy.
Third, he is fun, lauglable. It's easy for actors to attain sympathy from the public by playing him.
Fouth, he's a pirate. In the time, England pirates were very horrendous and killed thousand of dumb spanish retards. But now people like pirates, kids play of being a pirate. It seems fun a life of traveling over the seas, visiting all America's coasts and fighting with swords.
Fifth, Pan isn't precisely a good guy either. He calls children to flee from their home and live far from their parents. I'm totally ok with that, but parents get rly afraid with the idea.
Sixth, the children are just children, it's not good to plot an adult hurting children.
Because all of that it's even expected that Hook won't be a bad guy.
You say "so many people", and then name 2 times. Wow, your whole perspective on numbers is WAY off.
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