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Stereotypical black bullspit

posted 8 years ago by patriotssuck
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I hate these kind of "black" main character shows. It always starts off in the ghetto, there are drugs and gangs and it deal with the same horse crap as every other "black" movie. Lets talk about super heroes for a second..

Superman.. typical white male, works in an office 9-5 job
Iron Man, genius, born to riches lives the live most of us envy
Bat Man, rich white kid
Spiderman, averge white kid, goes to school deal with typical high school issues

Luke Cage, angry black man. has been in jain, lives in the ghetto does odd jobs, gets in trouble, soul music all black cast etc etc

Why can't we have an depiction of an average black persons lives. Something like

Luke Cage, suburban raised black kid, goes to school with only a handful of other black kids or only black dude at the office, only familiarity with ghetto is seeing it in movies etc. This angle is far more interesting and lots can be done with it.

I can't stand watching the currrent luke cage. The story must have been written by a white dude.

[–] rimeburn-77074 8 years ago

You woulda hated da comic.

If at first you don't succeed, keep trying til you find someone to blame.

[–] ChristopherSolomon 8 years ago

well yeah, you're correct but that's because the comic was written in the 70s when Blaxploitation was all the rage...Luke Cage definitely has similarities to alot of the heroes that dominated that genre.

A matter of fact Milestone comics did a parody of Luke Cage called Buck Wild
http://comicvine.gamespot.com/buck-wild/4005-23973/

There are black superheroes with pasts like you mention, there just haven't been movies about them yet

Geniuses - Black Panther, Cyborg, Mister Terrific

Born Wealthy - Night Thrasher (also Black Panther and Cyborg would fit in here too)

Typical male, works a 9-5 job - Icon (just as black as Superman is white given that they're both technically not human) Black Lightning (high school teacher although he was also written in the 70s and has elements of blaxploitation heroes), Deathlok (scientist)

Average black kid, goes to school, deals with typical high school issues: Static

[–] distant-skies 8 years ago

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[–] krypton_son 8 years ago

And a Trump supporter speaks! Thank you Trump supporter. Your opinion is important to us.

Typical libtard reply. He's got a point, I bet you didn't even read the full post. Just saw that it was about a black guy, got butthurt and whined.

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[–] sleepingtiger (712) 8 years ago

Krypton_son:

Oh, enough of the "typical libtard" bull****. You right wingers can't stand it when someone dosen't think like your narrow-minded stuck-up a****, so you just start the stupid petty childish name-calling like the little spoiled-a** wanna-be punks you really are. God forbid someone dosen't think or hate everything/everyone like you, then that automatically makes them a "libtard", which sounds something like a silly little child would say. You're nothing but a fool who's only capable of spouting dumb s*** you heard off of Fox News--which means you don't have an original thought in your little tiny brainless head--like most people who watch Foxhole news,lol.

[–] Robbie-hollyoak 8 years ago

Yeah I got 5 minutes into it and thought the same thing so turned it off. Seen one film/show with a black cast, seen them all in terms of dialogue

[–] sleepingtiger (712) 8 years ago

Robbie:

Honestly,that is so stupid and ignorant (and racist, frankly.) You would never say about another superhero show, "Seen one show about white superheroes, seen them all in terms of dialogue." All films about black people are not about being in the ghetto, and you know this---that is just too damn shortsighted,stupid and racist to reduce all black films and shows to the ONE you didn't even watch--- I mean,come the hell on. Sound like you're just too lazy to attempt to watch anything that isn't about white people,that's all. Apparently it would strain your brain to try and watch s program or movie about anyone that dosen't look like you. How narrow-minded and pathetic you sound.

[–] virmortis 8 years ago

You do realize that your original statement is contradictory and wrong.

If you want the life of how an average black person lives, why would you choose the plot line of a black kid that goes to a school full of white kids? That's literally the opposite of what you're suggesting. Why not have a black kid that goes to a predominantly black school? That's how the average black person lives.

[–] gavinscott10 8 years ago

Folks who have never read and been absorbed in the comic version would have a hard time liking what's been depicted on screen.

I read Luke Cage (Power Man) as a kid and absolutely love the show, so far.

[–] Mehki_Girl 8 years ago

I was a black person that went to a school where I was probably the only black kid in my class that I remember. Lived in a nearly all white neighborhood but there were black families. As far as I knew all black people live in nice neighborhoods and own there own homes. A billion years later, I still live in a nice home in a predominately white neighborhood. My kid went to a predominately white school. All my siblings own their own homes and live in primarily white neighborhoods (or all white except for us). All of us ALWAYS had jobs and that includes aunts, uncles, cousins, brothers, sisters, mother, father, grandparents (who stayed married until they died, including all my aunts and uncles). Only my parents were divorced when I was nine. Dad remarried and stayed with his wife until he died. He owned two homes, a boat, and land in Napa Valley. No one ever went to jail.

I agree with the OP. As a matter fact I just had this conversation with a black coworker yesterday. She's a secretary and makes over $90,000 a year, married one kid. We were talking about our sons. I don't see MY life reflected in this movies. Not all black people are poor, black under-educated and living in the ghetto, suffering, praying, and doing drugs. I turned off one new show (Sugar), when the black character who initially seemed like a good dad, taking care of his kid, robbed a store. Click. And it's black producers and directors making these stereotypical movies. I don't mind a movie based on real events that depict slavery or some civil rights piece or some first black person to be or become part of something. Otherwise, give me a break.

Right now I'm bingewatching murder and mayhem in the uppercrust beautiful English countryside. Everyone has a plummy upperclass English accent. Love those kinds of movies. Always have. It's called MidSommer.

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[–] sleepingtiger (712) 7 years ago

virmortis:

The average black person dosen't always live in only all-black neighborhoods----seriously, I am tired of white people who think they're the authority on how black people live, when they don't know a damn thing about us, or know any black people, for that matter. As a black person, I've lived in mostly black areas, and diverse areas too. Point being, black people's lives tend to be a lot more diverse and interesting than you think. You see that shown more in independent films made by black writer/directors, which tend to show black people as three-dimensional characters a heck of a lot more. And FYI, yeah, there are black families who live in majority white neighborhoods, with black kids going to a majority white school where they could be one of only a handful of black kids there. In Detroit (where I'm from) you might be one of the handful of white/Arab/Latino/Native American kids in a school--so yeah, the opposite happens sometimes. (And,yeah, the D has its diverse areas too----southwest Detroit is mostly Latino, Corktown was mostly Irish, but it's more diverse now,and Hamtramck was mostly Polish, but has gotten far more diverse in the last 25 years or so, with more black folks,Arabs and Bangladeshi (East Indian) folks moving in. Hamtramck's also got probably the only mostly Muslim city council in the country, and folks are okay with that.

That being said, Detroit's made a big comeback in the last decade (the downtown areas is booming with new businesses) and the city finally got a brand new light rail that just ---I just wanted to get that out there before the inevitable stupid ignorant racist comments one usually gets when mentioning the D. Yeah, the city still has a hell of a lot of problems, but they're being dealt with. End of story.

[–] sleepingtiger (712) 8 years ago

patriotsuck:

First of all, the show is based on a popular cult comic written in the '70s---when black people were becoming a major presence in films, and for the first time, movies were showing how black people actually lived in the inner cities. And Luke Cage is just ONE show---there are other shows like Being Mary Jane, This Is Us, Black-ish, Shots Fired, American Crime, Rosewood (the last two just got canceled, unfortunately) and Empire that show both rich and middle-class black folks. Point being, there are a whole range of shows and movies about black people that are not just the typical "ghetto " stories, which was played out over a decade ago as a genre,anyway. While the comic was written by a white dude, the showrunner of Luke Cage is a brother (Theo Hodari Coker) some of the show's directors are black, and obviously there are black writers on the show., So to just dismiss the show as some "stereotypical bull****" simply means that you just wrote it off on the basis of the plot description and never bothered to watch it. And it's not "stereotypical BS"--at least watch the first episode, and get a real opinion of it. You can't have a real opinion about something you're never seen. Don't just slam it because it's about people in the ghetto---ghetto folks are average people too, you know. (And it's never been just black folks in the ghetto, either,too--some Latinos and white folks and Arabs are there too, you know---at least in the Detroit metro area, that's the case, lol.)

[–] sleepingtiger (712) 7 years ago

Seen half the episodes already, and it's pretty been good so far, with memorable characters and good music too. It's clearly done from an African-American perspective, which makes it unique. I'll definitely have to finish watching the rest of it---particularly after that twist in the fourth episode concerning a certain person becoming a backstabbing crony for the main villain.