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Why? Why does KStew continue to get hired?


This poor mislead young lady thinks herself an actress.
With an open mouth and a frozen face as her universal tool to express every emotion I cannot understand why she was hired for this project or any other? Couldn't be her unchanged hair and looping it behind her ear that EVERY single character she portrays? Couldnt be her constant slumped and frumpy demeanor? Couldn't be her dark and tiny eyes? Couldn't be her slight, "Nine year old boy" body?

There are SO many talented, graceful, beautiful young actresses who demonstrate RANGE AND DIVERSITY!

For the love of Cinima, please stop hiring this person and delight us all with an actress who will add to the tapestry of the story!

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Why ya gotta go with the name calling? Not cool.... just because someone says something with with which you disagree?

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I totally agree with you! I might not care for the acting of some people, but I'm not going to IMDb to complain & say derogatory things about them.

H2H

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youre a liar-the critics tore her up too-no one said she was excellent. Now stop making a fool of yourself-shes awful and her days are numbered.

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The critics tore her up in the past, and those exact criticisms are rehashed by all of the idiots for every new thing she does. Its like the first thing that gets said about someone then gets shouted incessantly by all the window lickers in a vain attempt to convince others that they are not window lickers.

In reality she is a pretty decent actor. I have seen range from her, but then I am capable of seeing things that I have not been explicitly told to see.

Twilight sucked, and her character in that was really annoying. Now can we please get over that and next time you judge her, judge the performance rather than regurgitate the review you read about her other movie.

Her next ten movies are going to bring some moron to this forum to rewrite some twilight review they read years ago. That same moron will then think they are the intellectual equal of whoever trashed her in the past. That is how the feeble mind works.

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next ten movies? no way. you want to screw her-we get it-but don't conflate your weird teenage lust for her as some sort of hidden talent. Shes awful in everything. Did you see Snow White? terible

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Did you see Snow White? terible


Yes I did and her performance was awesome:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eb7aOK7rWTU

'Nuff said!

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I was so pissed at her being cast as Snow White because I enjoy watching remakes of old fairy tales. Regardless of whether she can act or not you can't cast an average looking girl as Snow White because she is supposed to be the "Fairest in the Land".

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Your spelling is terible.

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Twilight sucked, and her character in that was really annoying.


If there's any consolation, while this was far from being one of her better performances, her performance was still spot-on in the sense that she accurately portrayed Bella the way the book described her as well as showcasing screen presence:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDxI9S5gYt0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EaZDXRLNZk

Doubt any other young actress could have portrayed a better Bella.

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It's cool to say Twilight sucked but I actually enjoyed it and Kristen didn't hurt my enjoyment. She was adequate for the role.

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Do you think it's because she has more money then you?? stop hating because you ain't her. now run along, people need their meals.

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Not sure why some people take stuff like this so seriously, so far as to insult anyone who doesn't see things their way.

You could've gotten your point across without calling anyone names. The OP didn't insult anyone. They didn't personally attack you or anyone who likes KStew. So why exactly did you feel the need to reply in such an immature way?

... then you go so far as to say you put them on your ignore list? Are they supposed to care? Why would they, when you're a rather rude, insulting person? Doubt it'll be a huge loss to them.

Get over yourself.

Oh and you're now on my ignore list. :)

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Not sure why some people take stuff like this so seriously, so far as to insult anyone who doesn't see things their way.


The OP goes far beyond one "who doesn't see things her way."

The adjectives the OP chose, are in my opinion, much more insulting than calling the one who wrote the OP a "moron". For example, the OP used derogatory expressions in reference to Kristen such as:

"poor misleading young lady"

"frozen face"

"frumpy demeanor"

"nine year old body"

"stop hiring this person"

no "RANGE AND DIVERSITY"



Try spewing out such offensive and defamatory expressions with regard to one of your female workmates and I'm guessing she will either call you a moron for saying so or she will punch you in the face.

Try putting yourself in the shoes of one of Kristen's fans. Imagine a plethora of trolls going to the IMDb board of your fave actress along with all the boards of this actress' movies with the sole intent and purpose of bashing and hating on this actress--calling her the worst actress in Hollywood, with zero talent, zero charisma, unattractive, morally reprehensible, etc., etc., etc.

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....it sounds like you get emotionally distressed if some nobody on an anonymous message board insults the "acting" of a celebrity you're a "fan" of.


You can easily spot the ones who are emotionally distressed on internet forums just as you could easily spot them in real life. These are the ones who spew hate, use vulgar speech, say erratic things most people wouldn't dare say in real life and resort to personal attacks without remorse--and I say without remorse since they continue to spewing such hate over, and over, and over again.

And the twisted thing is they don't limit attacking Kristen, but they attack her fans who admire her as well. For example, the last person I responded to called me a "masturbating fanboy". I could have responded in kind, but I refuse to stoop to the level of those who abhor her. So I don't at all get emotionally distressed as you erroneously claim since I've learned not to take what Kristen's haters spew out to her fans personally. I find it ironic that you continue to nitpick on my comments yet you completely overlook/ignore posters who resort to vulgarity just so long as it supports your view.

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"poor misleading young lady"

"frozen face"

"frumpy demeanor"

"nine year old body"

"stop hiring this person"

no "RANGE AND DIVERSITY"

Those are some of the mildest insults I have ever read on the internet. If you find those offensive I wonder how you would react to somebody who was nasty.

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because she has talent


Rob Zombie is one of the greatest directors today

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I have not seen the new Fantastic four and do not plan too


Rob Zombie is one of the greatest directors today

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no hes not-he did one fairly decent horror movie (1000 corpses) and that's it...

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we can agree to disagree I have loved all his films especially TDR and Halloween series


Rob Zombie is one of the greatest directors today

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the kid in the first Halloween was hard to look at for me....

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That's not even considered Zombie's best movie. Those would be The Devil's Rejects and Lords of Salem.

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What talent? The ability to look constipated?

Who says violence is not the answer?

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She does look constipated a lot in Twilight! It's the porpoise meat.

KStew plays grungy, greasy stoner types perfectly, and that is all she plays it seems. I don't care. It's her style. She'd never play a princess or posh woman.

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She'd never play a princess or posh woman.


Kristen as a princess in Snow White and the Huntsman:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eb7aOK7rWTU

Kristen as a posh woman in Clouds of Sils Maria:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPXg3C7DMFU

And speaking of posh and princess-like, in real-life she's one of the highest paid celebrities, the face of a major fashion house(Chanel) and a cover girl for the world's best-selling fashion magazine(Elle). Doesn't get much haute couture than that, if you ask me.





Em brought me here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk1BpkbcWzc

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that told me! She seemed tomboy-ish and not really anything like snow-white though. I cannot comment on that other movie.

But come on, Kristin is not the glamour-fashion model type. She has a relaxed, some would say poor, posture and there's nothing wrong with that. I don't know why so many people try to make out their favourites are better in areas they clearly are not than others.

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"because she has talent"

Yes, that's true...lots of mediocre talent in that one.


















Rob Zombie is one of the worst directors today.

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she doesn't have much talent but her hair is really nice so I watch her.

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Kristen was great in this movie. That is all.

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She's looking the same in every movies she's in. I can't believe some people call her an actress. Directors should Stop hiring her.

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*beep* I doubt you've seen any movie she's been in.

A girl should be two things: Who and what she wants -Coco Chanel

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What talent does she have? And by talent, I mean talent outside of screwing her directors. Please explain. Place her in any role in any film, and it's the same person. It's like Tom Cruise is Tom Cruise in any film, but despite his craziness, he's at least still watchable.

Her bag of tricks for any dramatic turn are as follows:

Cross arms
Shrug
Flip Hair with hand
Exasperated sigh

Please explain to me how any of her so-called acting can be described at any level beyond mediocre? She has no personality, no charisma, and looks constantly bored.

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She was good, believable, in Adventureland. You sound angry.

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I've seen enough of her movies to know she has the range of cardboard.

Into the Wild
Twilight
Snow White
Adventureland
Zathura
Welcome to the Riley's
The RUnaways
On the Road
The Messengers
In the Land of Women


All of them, deadpan emotion.

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All those movies you listed and you say she's the same? That doesn't make any sense. All different roles, some very different, and she's shown a wide range of emotions in her various film roles. I can understand that you may not like her, as we all have our likes and dislikes, but listing all her many/varied roles and saying she's the same is just wrong. Plus it's an old phrase that probably came up over the hate tossed at Twilight and many of the cast there.

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All those movies you listed and you say she's the same?


Absolutely. Without a shadow of a doubt.

That doesn't make any sense. All different roles, some very different, and she's shown a wide range of emotions in her various film roles.


You can play different roles, and still exude the exact same mannerisms and behaviours in every one of them. Acting is being able to lose yourself in the role you're playing. If you saw any two performances from Jennifer Lawrence, Winter's Bone say, and then compared it to her role in American Hustle, and then further compared it to The Hunger games, VERY stark contrasts in behavior, facial expression, attitude and demeanour.

You can see the same thing in Heath Ledger when comparing his role in Brokeback Mountain to The Dark Knight. Or Gary Oldman in his roles Dracula and Drexl. Or Cate Blanchett in Benjamin Button and Lord of the Rings.

I mean it's light and day with these actors. You watch them on screen and you forget that these are actors portraying roles, because they become the roles they're playing.

This NEVER happens with KStew is on screen. She doesn't have what it takes.

I can understand that you may not like her, as we all have our likes and dislikes, but listing all her many/varied roles and saying she's the same is just wrong.


I've provided enough evidence to support the idea that I know what I'm talking about. Acting is an art. She doesn't have it. She's someone to fill the role, but she never loses herself inside of it. She plays herself. Not the characters she's supposed to portray. It's a problem. Always has been from day one.

Plus it's an old phrase that probably came up over the hate tossed at Twilight and many of the cast there.


No one else on Twilight received as much criticism as she did. I mean I'm not about to pretend that Twilight's script was anything the write home about. The whole list of actors had terrible performances, but that mostly thanks to the terrible writing and character development of the script. Robert Pattison isn't the greatest actor in the world either, but he has significantly more range than she does. And that's ignoring Anna Kendrick, Billy Burke, Nikki Reed and Jackson Rathborne. All of whom have far better talent than either of them.

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If you saw any two performances from Jennifer Lawrence, Winter's Bone say, and then compared it to her role in American Hustle, and then further comparing it to The Hunger games, VERY stark contrasts in behavior, facial expression, attitude and demeanor.


Jennifer in Winter's Bone:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdrhoE8_BQc

Jennifer in American Hustle:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FsuA4ICOTo

Jennifer in The Hunger Games:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXT9GDIvoqo


From what I gather, most people in real life have one emotional state that they return to in between dramatic events--a sort of overriding emotion and default state of mind. While her "behavior, facial expression, attitude and demeanor," varies noticeably from film project to film project, I wouldn't call it stark by any stretch, since she does return to the same emotional state in all of her films thus far. Don't get me wrong, I honestly believe Jennifer has acting talent--but not in the sense that she is totally unrecognizable from one role to the next. I would definitely agree that Heath Ledger is an excellent example of an actor who can become virtually unrecognizable from one performance to the next as he did as the Joker in The Dark Knight.

She plays herself. Not the characters.


Kristen's public persona is not as bubbly and congenial in real life as she was in Cutlass:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9m6_wPLKjM

Kristen does not have a neuromuscular disorder in real life like she had in The Cake Eaters:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAL-_oPGwyw

Kristen isn't Joan Jett in real life like she was in the biopic The Runaways:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2-nNAV_Y1A

Kristen was never a victim of sexual assault as a 13-year-old in real life as she was in Speak:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT7Pw1zo7mw

Kristen never served in the military, least to say served as a detainee guard at Guantanamo Bay detention camp, like she did in Camp X-Ray:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBO18jbplWc

Kristen is not a virgin in real life like she was in the first installment of Twilight:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDxI9S5gYt0










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You believe those things, but it doesn't mean others agree. I find Kristen in On The Road, to be totally different from Kristen in Camp X-Ray. Her performance. in Clouds or Sils Maria is light years away from her performance in The Runaways. Her Joan Jett, in The Runaways is nothing like Bella in Twilight. Anna Kendrick leaves me cold in all her movies. I would not say she is a bad actress, she is a good actress but I don't like her movies. I liked Winter's Bone, but hated American Hustle with a deep passion. Jennifer L. certainly can act, but I haven't like a few of her movies, Serena and the last two Hunger Games.

You might not like her acting style or acting ability, but she has many fans and critics, who love her. People, who love her acting, and couldn't disagree with you more. Kristen, Jennifer or Anna are each going to have people who don't like them as actresses. And think one or all of them are overrated.

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spot on reply mate. she can't act for *beep* too self conscious perhaps

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I disagree. She's an excellent actress. She's only "self-conscious" when it's required of her character.

A girl should be two things: Who and what she wants -Coco Chanel

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All different roles, some very different, and she's shown a wide range of emotions in her various films.


In my opinion, Kristen has definitely shown a wide range of emotions in her films collectively:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnP8LeYxbnc

As far as a film which best exemplifies Kristen showcasing a wide range of emotions in one single role is her Cesar-winning performance in Clouds of Sils Maria:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHf9p-TRZlo

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Agreed. She has the expressiveness and acting talent of a rotten log and her mumbly nasally voice just compounds it.

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1. She's pretty
2. She can act
3. She's not just in Twilight.
4. GTFO

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shes not pretty-shes ok

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Kristen and Jesse, namely their chemistry together, was in my opinion, the best part about this film.

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Kristen Rytter and Jesse Pinkman

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Kristen and Jesse, namely their chemistry together, was in my opinion, the best part about this film.


Agreed, they made a great pair, as they also did in Adventureland where I felt they had more opportunity to show the chemistry, more time together in a romantic setting.

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Kristen gets hired because she does a very good job in her roles. She's received a lot of praise for most of her roles, and brings a lot of character and charisma to the roles. She's played a large variety of roles since she was a pre-teen, a teen rape victim, teen with a congenital disease, Joan Jett in the Runaways with Dakota Fanning where they did a great job. Then rave reivews for Sils Maria where she won a French Cesar (Oscar) award, and many more roles. She loves the craft of acting and movie making, loves the industry, is quiet, humble and down to earth, and studios like working with her.

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Kristen gets hired because she does a very good job in her roles.


The rest is pretty much beyond her control.

And even in cases where a film receives mixed reviews, such as American Ultra has, Kristen is still receiving praise for her performance as Phoebe.

Recently, I've seen too many films involving romance where the romance falls flat. In my opinion, one of Kristen's strongest fortes is her undeniable chemistry with her onscreen love interest:

With Anton Yelchin in Fierce People.

With Adam Brody in In the Land of Women.

With Aaron Stanford in The Cake Eaters.

With Emile Hirsch in Into the Wild.

With Eddie Redmayne in The Yellow Handkerchief.

With Jesse Eisenberg in Adventureland.

With Dakota Fanning in The Runaways.

With Robert Pattinson in Breaking Dawn - Part 1.

With Garrett Hedlund in On the Road.

With Chris Hemsworth in Snow White and the Huntsman.

With Jesse Eisenberg in American Ultra.


And as far as platonic chemistry with costars:

With Jodie Foster in Panic Room.

With James Gandolfini in Welcome to the Rileys.

With Peyman Moaadi in Camp X-Ray.

With Juliette Binoche in Clouds of Sils Maria.

With Julianne Moore in Still Alice.

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I haven't seen this film, but I may....it's not my typical genre, actually. But I agree about Miss Stewart.... I feel like people have different definitions of what acting means.... one one side, I guess she recites her lines, does her blocking, and sometimes has chemistry with co-actors. On the other side, she has no depth, and cannot convey various characters with believability. I can certainly see her appeal, but she has some work to do in her craft to be considered a good actress.

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There is no range when she has played roles from Joan Jett, Marylou in On the Road, a young folk singer, Tracy, in Into the Wild (she sings and plays her song with Hirst live in front of an audience), or for that matter Bella, the generic and annoying teenage girl? Apart from Joan Jett praising Kristen, Courtney Love thought she nailed the part and Patti Smith wanted Kristen to play her in Just Kids. Stewart is the one playing guitar and singing in The Runaways (go search for I Love Playing with Fire and Kristen Stewart on YouTube and tell me she doesn't sound and behave like Joan Jett on stage).

Stewart has received unanimously great reviews post-Twilight and as people mentioned she is the first American actress to win a Cesar, playing opposite the talented and even legendary Juliette Binoche and managing to hold her own and more, in Clouds of Sils Maria. Go read over 90 reviews that are conveniently aggregated by RT, and see the praise she gets from respected critics.

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Didn't she just win an award in the European academy awards for best supporting actress in Sils Maria? Not only that, she's the first american to win that award in 20 years or something. My "facts" might be a little inaccurate but I remember it being something like that. I actually liked Kristen Stewart as an actress before she even became famous, because she played the lead role in "Speak", one of my favorite books growing up. I'll admit she's a bit dry and has a few noticeable quirks, but it doesn't mean she can't pull off authentic acting.

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