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Something very ridiculous about this movie, and nobody's talking about i

posted 9 years ago by rd-art2005
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The chip that can apparently break all encryption in the world.

Seriously, anybody who has a decent knowledge of how computers work, knows that current encryption algorithms can't be broken by classical computers even after a billion years.

Maybe they can argue this thingamajig is a quantum computer, which greatly reduces the algorithmic complexity to be able to break encryption. But if that's the case, then they won't be the only ones with such technology. Currently quantum computers are being developed in many companies and universities, so when a device like this actually works, it won't go unnoticed.

[–] bchow 9 years ago

First of all, like others have mentioned, the whole chip and lab are all fake, part of the plan.

Second, they DID mention it was a quantum computer. Which is possible (in theory) of breaking current encryption methods.

[–] Sidewindr 8 years ago

Breaking encryption does not give you access to computers, their data or access through firewalls.

[–] AngelGG 9 years ago

not only that but even a quantum computer that does say a brute force attack of a gazillion attacks per minute could still be fooled by 2 step authorisation and those with access limits (i.e 3 tries then wipe or lock for example)

That was a completely stupid plot point, they should have stuck more to the magic.

[–] CyberVerm 9 years ago

Well, that would be like having an issue with almost every plot ever when it comes to box offices movies. It's always some improbable world ending device or some *beep* like that. Didn't fast and the furious 7 have something like this? Some USB drive with a software that would allow you to tap into pretty much every camera in the world, including phone cameras, laptops, etc. I mean, come the *beep* on...

But the movie has cars falling from the sky and the rock shooting helicopters down with his handgun, so I really don't mind it, just as I don't mind it in this movie. They have rain flying upwards, smart people inside a plane that can't tell isn't flying. I mean god, nobody asked "hey wtf, I thought opening the door in mid air was more dangerous than this! Anyway, lets keep drinking champagne!" They even have Mark Ruffalo going all Jackie Chan on a bunch of random thugs in a market, using magic martial arts or something, all without having to transform into the hulk mind you. So badass.

So yeah, the whole chip thing accessing every computer just felt as dumb as every other thing in these movies but I don't know why I enjoy them so much, probably because of what my wife says, she always calls me a frustrated magician, since I am always doing tricks to people and used to buy a lot of magic stuff when I was a kid. It is the only explanation I have for liking these two very poorly made movies.

I'm the guy who makes the "worst movie ever" thread in your favorite movie board

[–] melecsengir-1 8 years ago

There is always the one who says that this one impossible Thing bugged him, beside all the other 100000 impossible Things in this movie and others.

[–] rd-art2005 8 years ago

If you pay attention to my other replies, everything else did bother me, but nobody had talked about this topic before me.

[–] melecsengir-1 8 years ago

Sorry. Do not have that much time on my Hands. Hope you accept my apology

[–] streaky-332-556545 8 years ago

when a device like this actually works, it won't go unnoticed

D-Wave?

Not for nothing but if states create the technology and it does what's claimed in the movie they would entirely likely keep if for themselves and nobody would ever hear of it.

Plus, suspension of disbelief is fairly key for movies anyway, else 2001?

[–] rd-art2005 8 years ago

they would entirely likely keep if for themselves

Yeah, but they're not the only ones developing it. It wouldn't be the first time something is invented independently by different people.

else 2001

2001? Like in A Space Oddysey? Like the movie that is a different genre than this one?

Or maybe you're talking about something else. I don't get it.

[–] SFPsychoDane 8 years ago

Perhaps it is powered by "Unobtanium" ?

[–] shinigami_ichigo 8 years ago

I don't know if you've seen Mission Impossible 3. If you have, you might have already figured out what I'm about to say next, otherwise just be a good boy and read along. The chip in this movie, I believe, does the same function as the Rabbit's foot in MI:3. It's called a Macguffin. The MacGuffin is a plot device that drives the story forward and is vital to both the heroes and sometimes the villains as well, but the specifics like how it works, what it is etc are left unexplained by design, since it is not important and simply serves as a means to an end.

I do apologize if I sound snarky but I'm just tired of people nitpicking everything, when they go out of their way to *beep* on something I love. I know you said you brought this up only because you felt everything else seemed to be analysed and dissected to nothingness but seriously man I would proffer any one who wants to watch this movie,to see it, just like one would a magic show. You go in letting your gaurd down, you go in to be fooled. Don't be the person who we thought Thaddeus Bradley was, be the guy he turned out to be. Cheers.

[–] rd-art2005 8 years ago

just be a good boy

Condescending much?

[–] shinigami_ichigo 8 years ago

I do apologize if I sound snarky but I'm just tired of people nitpicking everything, when they go out of their way to *beep* on something I love.

[–] rd-art2005 8 years ago

Apologizing doesn't cancel out your condescendence, though.

[–] shinigami_ichigo 8 years ago

Oh well, you can't win 'em all.

[–] astronaut1 8 years ago

No, this is condescending:

Aww, did the big bad bully call you a name? would you like a biscuit and some warm milk? and then you can tell uncle all about it.

He's just getting tired, as am I, of people picking holes in the plots of every frickin' movie made, unless the plot is somehow flawless, which no movie ever is. A flawless plot would most likely cost more time than is financially viable anyway.

When did movies start having similar requisite plots as novels? when ironically most of the people who complain and bicker about movies apparently can't spell.

The general negativity of people is why I no longer read the forums of IMDB, I only came on to get a little clarification/confirmation of the plot points.

[–] cojemy 8 years ago

Read about Riemann hypothesis and Prime Numbers. Hacking Prime Number will make possible to break any encryption. Maybe someone already did that?

[–] rd-art2005 8 years ago

Riemann hypothesis

If they were somehow implying that they proved Riemann hypothesis, that would be even more unbelievable because if it turns out to be false then it means this movie is logically inconsistent from a mathematical point of view. (I mean, it already has many inconsistencies, this would be just adding another one).

[–] mematron 8 years ago

Just remember that nothing is secure. After that you can be free to enjoy crap like this. Besides, this movie was better when it was called, "Sneakers."

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/mematron

[–] rd-art2005 8 years ago

Just remember that nothing is secure

[citation needed]

[–] gergelyszabo 8 years ago

"Seriously, anybody who has a decent knowledge of how computers work, knows that current encryption algorithms can't be broken by classical computers even after a billion years. "

I think you read something somewhere and misunderstood. I think what they meant to say was that for a current computer to break a current encryption it would take billions of years.

With technology improving though brute forcing older standards becomes quite viable. That is why such standards are hardened. So it could make sense that they invented a much faster chip.

It seems pointless to argue about the many faults of this movie though. Sometimes they called it a "backdoor" even so are talking about something that is quite vague and unexplained.

// gergely-szabo.com

[–] rd-art2005 8 years ago

brute forcing older standards

Yeah, but most devices nowadays, especially the newest ones, don't use older standards for encryption. And this movie is not set in the distant future, but in the present day. There's no reason to believe they have a current device that can break current encryption standards.