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I was actually with it until (major ending spoilers):

posted 10 years ago by vvanningogh
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For starters, I was surprised by how much fun I had with the film. I didn't find too much fault in the performances (let's just say I expected worse), there was just enough development to make me root for Amy, Seth, and Tamara; who was one of the film's strong points and should have lasted longer. Plus, it's getting closer to Halloween, I had a good time with the first movie, and I'm in the spirit.

But can we talk about that last act?

Alright, so Amy and Seth make it into a room where they find a window conveniently open, but only slightly. Amy can squeeze through, but Seth can't, so he tells Amy to take his car and bring back help. While scaling the wall outside, Amy spots Goodnight coming in her direction and decides to reunite with Seth in the room. Okay, the word 'convenient' is really starting to rack up at this point, but whatever, I'm still with it. Not long after, Goodnight completely destroys the window before continuing on. Now here's where the film lost me. The prior issue of Seth not being able to fit through the window has been ELIMINATED. It's no longer there! They both could have climbed out of the gaping hole Goodnight left behind and went in the opposite direction. Hell, Seth even tries to climb out that SAME GAPING HOLE after Amy is killed. Instead, and this is where I threw my hands into the air, they go through the hall and try exiting out a nearby door.

We then get an ending reminiscent of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Beginning (2006). So we're supposed to buy that Seth didn't notice a seven foot hulk hiding in the backseat of his car? I won't even go into Goodnight standing behind Seth as he finally realizes what he really should have a long time ago. I guess it could have been worse, where Seth gets back into the vehicle and Goodnight pops up from his hiding place. /sigh

I get it, the writers didn't want to repeat the first film by having survivors, but holy lack of creativity.

Rambling aside, I still had a good time. I don't personally get the complaints about Danielle Harris and Katharine Isabelle, who both delivered decent performances, especially with the passable writing they were given. Different strokes for different folks, I suppose. Also dug the music and editing. The cinematography was good considering the setting. The gore was more on the tame side, which will definitely bother viewers walking in a little blood hungry, and the kills, minus one or two, were pretty predictable. The writing? Passable at best. I don't think it was any worse or better than the first film. It's just a shame about those easily avoidable clichés.

[–] patlovest 10 years ago

I could not agree more... I really liked the deaths and the reactions to them were spot on. The gore was nice but not over the top and the people were pretty to look at too. I had some minor plot failures that came to mind (does no one grab a weapon when being chased by a maniac anymore? Besided the open cabinet of cutting tools from the morgue there were fire axes and alcohol by the gallon for flaming death fun) but all told they really were minor. I actually enjoyed this movie for about 90% of it. As you said, the clichés were the death knell of this story.

1) why would the psycho killer be hiding in the women's bathroom on the off chance that someone would run in there rather than all of the other places they could hide (I know many rooms were locked but he had no idea of that... he just woke from the dead and knew nothing of the layout of the place.).

2) How did he know when Amy was on the other side of the door but was unaware of almost any other he was in proximity of a hiding person (the exceptions being the bathroom {he was there first} and Tamara {who admitted it was a terrible hiding place when she went there}). Did he just hope against hope that when he plunged his machete through the door he would hit something?!

3) Let Seth live damnit... the idea (as you pointed out) that not only did Jacob know which car was Seth's (!!!) but that a near 7 foot tall stinking monster (not like they gave his supposed corpse a shower and he was living in filth for 30 some odd years) slipped into the backseat and then exited the car and circled around Seth like a ninja with stealth skills off the charts is stupid at best. This ruined the movie for me completely. How hard would it have been for him to drive off and then show the final scene of the morgue and its victims where they lay.. done... no surprise ending, no last minute reprieve.

I was seriously looking forward to this film as I had much fun with the last one but I can honestly say that I will not be rewatching this one. The ending kills this the same way that the ending of "The Mist" destroyed that movie for me. Maybe I will do the same thing and just watch it again with friends and when he opens the gate I will shut it off and say "Movie over! Not bad huh?" (for the mist I turn it off when you hear the gunshots go off...).

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[–] ScorpionTDC 10 years ago

The Soska's didn't write the script, it's not their fault it had that ending (which, yes, was stupid. Oh well)

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[–] alliedcola 10 years ago

Directors don't always have total creative control, i mean, look at how 47 ronin went, the execs fired the director to get the cut they wanted...

There's no kill like OVERKILL. 

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[–] The_King_of_Cool 10 years ago

WRONG!

While See No Evil 2 is DTV it is by Lionsgate, which isn't a major studio like say Universal, but 2nd in line of major studios.

Even if it were some low budget studio that doesn't mean the director (s) will have full creative control. If the Soska sisters shot this on their own and sold it. Different story. It may be DTV but is still a studio film and even if it were some low budget company there are still executives that run it.

Don't post about things you clearly have no idea on.

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[–] The_King_of_Cool 10 years ago

Yes they will. This isn't the 80s anymore. The Friday the 13th films the filmmakers more or less did what they pleased. Though part 7 the writer had issues with a producer on a power trip.

Once the 90s came in things changed, which is part of the reason William Lustig basically stopped directing. Nowadays studios more than before wanna protect the franchise or in this case a franchise they hope to launch.

It's the Soska Sisters not Martin Scorsese. You work within the system you follow their rules.

[–] ScorpionTDC 10 years ago

To be fair, the writer probably could have had Jacob be revealed as still alive without killing Seth. Or pitched a way to bring him back for a sequel anyways (Like with killing Michael in Halloween: H20)

Still, not the Soskas fault

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[–] freeist 10 years ago

SPOILERS

Tongue in cheek:

1) ". . .why would the psycho killer be hiding in the women's bathroom. . ?"

Luck. Just dumb luck. He went into the ladies bathroom to take a leak (I doubt he cares about the pants/dress icons), and Kaylee happened to choose that as a hiding place. The reason why he didn't kill her right away? Well, maybe he was actually taking a dump.

2) "How did he know when Amy was on the other side of the door . . ?"

There's one of two things this can be. One is, since Jacob is operating with one eye, maybe he learned how to depend on his hearing more than he was in the beginning of the film. The second is luck, just luck again. He wanted to break down, or maybe punch a hole in it so he could look through, or some less savory purpose (Google gloryholes), and she just happened to be reaching the door then.

3) "that not only did Jacob know which car was Seth's (!!!) but that a near 7 foot tall stinking monster"

Jacob is just one friggin lucky b*stard, that's what it is. After a hard night of ripper and slasher work, he's tired and feels indigestion from guzzling embalming fluid. He finds a car in the lot to crash in. Wouldn't you know it would be the car of the one guy he didn't kill? Seth was busted up and injured, his bleeding nose had lost its sense of smell. He was too weak and dizzy to notice the seven-foot guy in the back seat, or the way his rear wheels sagged. Jacob didn't really ninja skills, Seth's ears were just ringing too bad to hear him.

Now all of this luck seems uncanny, but then we find out that Jacob is supernatural, that's the only way you can explain him surviving embalming. That could account for all the good luck he had while slashing.

Works for me.

[–] Mikey-Elite 10 years ago

When Jacob breaks the window and then walks off he walks off in the direction of the parking lot. We don't know where the other side leads to. It could have easily been a dead end.

[–] BrianCTyler 10 years ago

You guys are definitely thinking too much for this movie. When I watched it I wasn't questioning every little moment, I was just having fun with it.

- Brian C. Tyler

[–] redban (6776) 5 years ago

As for how Kane knew which car was Seth’s ... How many cars would be there in the first place? The hospital was near empty. The friends probably took a cab or public transit because a parked car would ruin the surprise party.

That leaves just 2 cars — Amy’s & Seth. (I doubt the wheelchair guy could drive without legs). It’s possible that Amy also didn’t have a car. It’s implied that she’s new there and doesn’t have a large salary, given her brothers objections to that job.

So basically, there was probably only one car there. Not hard for Jacob to pick which car to enter.

As for how Seth didn’t notice Kane in the backseat, remember that he took a beatdown, with lots of blood loss, and he went through a traumatic night. It wouldn’t be difficult to think that his mental and physical capabilities weren’t good at the time, so he didn’t notice Kane in the backseat.

[–] R_Kane (15828) 5 years ago

I hated this movie. The ending was sadistic. This was more evidence that horror cannot exist without stupidity. I don’t need to elaborate. There were too many scenes of people standing and crying when they should have been RUNNING FOR THEIR LIVES. And Seth KNOWS that Goodnight somehow lived, but makes NO EFFORT AT ALL to RUSH to the cops to get medical attention for Amy?! This was pure crap. This was an insult to anyone with a triple-digit IQ.