Ruined by the third act


Everything this film conveys at the first two acts is brilliant. It's original, eerie, strange and different from everything I've seen. However, the ending throws out of the window everything that was achieved by concluding the film with the same ending we've seen a million times. Not that the ending didn't make sense, or that it was bad. It wasn't. Actually, it was in line with everything it was settled before. However, I don't understand: why make a film that is so well conducted and original in the beggining and then waste it with that ending? It's pointless.

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I don't agree with the original post.

Usually (just saying) horror movies will have the twists only at the end (third act), but this film had in the fist act itself.

People think they figured it out early, that's what the writer wanted, coz he expect the viewers to keep guessing throughout the watch. But it is not going to deliver one and that is the twist in filmmaking, not in the film.

If the viewer is a tough guy,he'll defend his honour of what this movie made him look like a fool.

But some people won't consider opening hint as a twist, they deny it and anticipates one in the conclusion section like this OP writer wanted.

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I kind of agree. There is absolutely no "twist" in this movie. It is a slow reveal in the FIRST ACT. Halfway through, the story does shift, and that can be jarring, but twist? No. People were expecting supernatural Horror and got psychological. It's better to go into movies like this blind, and I'm glad I did.

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But, clearly, some ppl were surprised at the end if you read some posts. Some didn't figure out the twist until the mother flat out stated it, which she did towards the end of the movie. Some are saying they heard gasps in their theatres when the mother reveals the "twist."

I definitely think the "twist" was meant to be a genuine twist or else the mother would have said something about Lukas being dead when her other kid first asks her why she didn't make him any food.

This movie didn't work for me on any level. Perhaps if I hadn't figured out the "twist" as early as I did, I might have had a better viewing experience.

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You could see the ending from a mile. Ruined most of the film for me too, ending up giving it a 5 out of 10.

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I have seen way to many movies with the schizo-twist.. after the breakfest scene I knew the plot-twist and everything just became a drawnout snoozefest with no surprises.. movie was boring as *beep*..

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Yep! This is exactly how I felt too.

After the breakfast scene, the twist was clear to me. From there, I was wondering what else would happen, and if there was anything to the whole "You're not our mother" thing. Sadly, there was nothing else. Just a psychotic kid.

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The ending was great. The revelation that the kids are one and the same should have been at the bath tub scene for most. Pretty much in the middle of the movie.

Where both, identical looking kids have the same nose-bleed at the same location with the same amount of blood.

What was cool in the ending was the shift of a heartless mother towards a struggling mum who was in over her head with a mentally ill kid - in addition to the accident.

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I'm with you. People are so butthurt that they saw the twist coming, and really it telegraphed it in the first few minutes. The twist was never the point. I figured it out early on and I was more interested in the mom's story. They made a really strong point that she was not their mom and if I'm disappointed it's because that plotline wasn't followed through. Sure, maybe she's just a heartless mom, who went through an accident, had her mole removed, had a friend who dressed and looked just like her, and forgot what her kid's favorite song was. You can't just throw all that *beep* at me, and be like nah, it was really the mom bc she knows one fact about the accident. So if the movie is disappointing to me, that's why, not because I figured out the truth about the kids early.

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I respect every opinion in this board, but I have to agree with the original poster. Having seen Seidl's movies before this one led me to think, erroneously, that Ich Seh Ich Seh would be similar to his, static shots and nice photography apart.
The third act killed it for me, for a lot of reasons.
I'll start from the premise. Two children think their mother has been substituted by an imposter. Ok, not that original, but it may work beautifully.
Plenty of rich things to work out of this. Themes about identity, abandonment, mother-son relationship, childhood phobias, who knows.
Their mother returns, apparently from a cosmetic surgery operation, and it makes me wonder; did this mother left their children alone just to get her face redone? The movie even implies that this operation could have been done out of luxury, of selfishness, especially with that scene where The Mother looks at herself in the mirror, touching her breasts, looking at her body.
The forcedly ambiguous tone of the movie, which basically denies the audience any kind of information about plot and characters and as such forces us to try and come up with theories and interpretations, doesn't help.
Here we have very simple elements and characters without a past. So, it felt good for the first two acts to start thinking.
Is it all metaphor? Was this real or imagined?
Then, turns out, none such game was ever being played in the plot. The mother, the accident, the bandages.
It's all about a past tragedy, that's never really hinted at in no way and the entire thing we've made up in our minds, it's useless.
The movie left us walking into the dark and then pulled out extreme violence connected to a past tragedy we've known nothing about for most of the time.
The first hour seems only to be about living an eerie experience through the eyes of a child and the last 20 minutes seem to be about "Oh. That's what happens when you don't....solve...erm...bad things that happened." The kid goes *beep* crazy and kills the mother. Yeah. That left me thinking about grief and tragedy a lot.
What were they trying to talk about? That even the strongest bonds can be destroyed by grief? That violence only creates more violence? That if you've got issues, you don't wanna put them on your kid unless you want him to kill you?
I'm fine with all this, but then, if you wanna make a strong point then don't stay silent for one hour before actually saying what's going on.
Either you go all the way ambiguous or you start saying things clearly from the beginning.

And don't get me started on the "We're dead but everything is fine and now we're happy again!! :-) :-)" ending.

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I'll start from the premise. Two children think their mother has been substituted by an imposter.


That's not the premise. By the time they even start saying that, it's already obvious that Lukas is a figment of the boy's imagination. From there, it just unrolled the only way it could.

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I agree. Everybody who pays close attention from the beginning will question Lucas existence right after they met their mother, then the game and the breakfast. After you realize there's something wrong with their interaction, the guessing become more interesting. I come up with few things during watching the movie. Firstly, of course Lucas is Elias' imagination. Then, I started to think may be Lucas is real but the mother and Elias not. The mother mystery make the movie become more interesting and my mind always rolling the whole time to come up with every theory I could of what is actually happening in the house.

In the end, I conclude that Lucas is a ghost in the movie who tried to confuse Elias mind about their real mother. Lucas wanted her mother back and trapped her mother in the ghost world (whatever you can called it). He need Elias to kill her by doing some ritual. The fire, candles, or may be the dead cat. In the end, they Lucas get the mother. Since Elias could see Lucas, there's no problem for him to see his dead mother's spirit.

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Everything this film conveys at the first two acts is brilliant. It's original, eerie, strange and different from everything I've seen.


On the other hand, most of us have seen the Sixth Sense.

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That one twin died isn't the real plot twist, though. If you can, please watch the film again, and try to figure out which twin is the "bad twin." Who is really cruel, torturous? Who lights insects with a magnifying glass? And was there really an accident? Or did Elias put Lukas down by drowning him? He's the one that put the dead cat "drowned" in the terrarium where his mother would see it, and she doesn't act surprised at all. On second viewing I had to pay much closer attention to who was who, and it's just as disturbing.

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I immediately caught on to the fact that one of the brothers was somehow not real very early on, when Mother wasn't acknowledging the second twin at all, and then the fact that the second twin never actually speaks to anyone, but whispers to his brother what he wants to say, and never touches anything in front of others, that continued to confirm it until the end.

I'm not sure the second twin is a ghost however - why not a psychotic figment of the first twin's imagination?

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