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Don't watch this movie if you're an Atheist/Satanist


The way they kept shoving their christian (with the lower-case "c") propaganda down my throat is unacceptable and sickening. I was expecting "god (with the lower-case "g") is great" to start playing during the credits.

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please don't group atheism with those silly satanists.

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I'm an atheist and I enjoyed the movie. Yes, the theological aspects made me roll my eyes a bit, but it wasn't that big a deal. There are bigger flaws in the script to worry about.

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Why does it bother you so much? God is presented as being completely ineffectual or not giving a *beep* in any of these movies, and Christians are shown to believe in all kinds of wacky crap, like a Marilyn Manson nun demon, levitation, poltergeists, ouija boards, possessions and ghosts; a bunch of weak minded morons who would fall for any trick and any delusion of their minds. The Christian spiritual cleansers perform voodoo like incantations and primitive magic rituals to ward off evil that wouldn't be out of place in a shaman hut in the deepest parts of Africa.

Religious movies such as this are like war dramas, which inevitably carry an anti-war message to the audience. If someone watches this movie and think it must be great to believe in this garbage and be afraid of your own shadow, or of a monster actually grabbing your children from under their beds, that only means they were beyond helping to begin with, like someone who dreams about burning homes and shooting down women and children after watching a Vietnam war film.

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I'm atheist and I enjoyed the movie. What's the problem? It's just a movie!

I love war movies and the chauvinisme and jingoism most American war movies present are much more irritating to me than this kind of "god defeats demons". Yet I keep watching American war movies. Why couldn't an atheist enjoy this movie?

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Yeah... Nothing there except for seventeen centuries of Tradition, is there?


In any event, most horror literature and such sources depict that it is the faith the user has in the symbol that is it's power, not the object itself. A Jew or Hndu obviously wouldn't use a cross.

Tho now that you've mentioned it, I can't wait for a Rastafarian to chase off a demon with a doobie.


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I'm an athiest and I highly enjoyed the movie. Why not enjoy the movie and stop being an a-hole about it.

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Atheist, agnostic or anything else, it doesn't matter. Clearly the movie isn't in the least shoving Christianity down your throat. Faith and perseverance is the key message. I am Christian myself but not the bible-bashing kind. I respect all because everyone's been made w. the power of decision as God intended to. There will always be people who won't believe even if the proof is right in their faces, they'll still question the why behind the why. Enjoy the movie as it is ffs.

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Well, your first clue that there were going to be religious themes in this film should have been any mention of demons or an afterlife, which the inclusion of the Warrens alone should have given you. This is a "ghost story" and atheists as a rule don't believe in ghosts because they spring directly and solely from religious ideas. How does one combat a religion-created foe? With religion. Surprise!

That doesn't mean atheists can't enjoy a ghost story; we suspend disbelief for ghosts like we do for Harry Potter and Jane Eyre, who are also not real.

I enjoyed this movie. *shrug*


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It's just a goddamn movie. What's the point of bringing religion to the discussion? You don't need to be a christian, atheist or satanist to enjoy this movie. I'm agnostical and I enjoyed this movie, but I bet many other people enjoyed this film as well, no matter which religious orientation they have.

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