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Don't watch this movie if you're an Atheist/Satanist


The way they kept shoving their christian (with the lower-case "c") propaganda down my throat is unacceptable and sickening. I was expecting "god (with the lower-case "g") is great" to start playing during the credits.

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That's good. You're in the minority anyway. God bless

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(with the upper case "G")


"In a time of universal deceit,
telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
George Orwell

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No the minority such as yourself confuse common sense with denial. It's a common symptom of atheism. I don't worship god. I worship God but thanks for playing.

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Do you worship his whore of a mother too?

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Nope. But I can tell you are starving for attention.

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Which One?

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It seems like you're really trying (and failing) to get a rise out of people. Sounds really immature. The way you have to make it known that you're not a believer.

“Because here's something else that's weird but true: in the day-to day trenches of adult life, there is actually no such thing as atheism. There is no such thing as not worshipping. Everybody worships. The only choice we get is what to worship. And the compelling reason for maybe choosing some sort of god or spiritual-type thing to worship—be it JC or Allah, be it YHWH or the Wiccan Mother Goddess, or the Four Noble Truths, or some inviolable set of ethical principles—is that pretty much anything else you worship will eat you alive. If you worship money and things, if they are where you tap real meaning in life, then you will never have enough, never feel you have enough. It's the truth. Worship your body and beauty and sexual allure and you will always feel ugly. And when time and age start showing, you will die a million deaths before they finally grieve you. On one level, we all know this stuff already. It's been codified as myths, proverbs, clichés, epigrams, parables; the skeleton of every great story. The whole trick is keeping the truth up front in daily consciousness.”


Nothing to do with Christianity or God. You're simply an uneducated prick.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEVrzwXDdyuRnG6VMfoT2nyS0TdznlSDc

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you're about as obnoxious and irritable as any bible thumper i've met, grats.

Plot hole - Aspect of a film that is misunderstood or missed while using your smart phone.

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Hancockenstein- love that sig.


"In a time of universal deceit,
telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
George Orwell

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OP- you really have no idea what Satanism is about, do you?


"In a time of universal deceit,
telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
George Orwell

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No, you do. 

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More so than you, I fear.


"In a time of universal deceit,
telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
George Orwell

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It's a movie.

Chill out...besides most of the catholic faith around demonology is pretty *beep* metal. I'm surprised you're all butt hurt by the fact the needed to use the faith in order to make the movie 'stick'. Just turn if off if you're so offended.

...are you seriously going to point out the 'annoying' religious aspects in a horror movie about demonology?!!?!

I can't.

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Agnostic with a disdain for any religion here. I disagree with you. Now I hate movies that get preachy with their message on any subject, but I never felt that with The Conjuring 2 because the references to Christianity and God and the use of religion fits into the story. They're dealing with a demon. It makes sense to use religion as their weapon against it. Tell, what weapon would you use against a demon? Guns and swords? Not very practical with a supernatural subject.

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In reality there are no ghosts and there is nothing like a god and I still enjoyed this great movie!

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Of course... Because We know Everything there is to know about Everything, don't We?




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Nobody said that.

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No, but that is certainly the attitude which is displayed when someone talks about "no such thing as ghosts" or "There is no god". In fact, you *don't* know and *can't* know, not for certain. Because there is so much we do not know about reality and how it works.

Ruling out anything as "impossible" because of how we understand the world NOW smacks of intellectual arrogance.



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I guess by that logic, you cannot say for sure that a Quisinart blender purchased at Sears in 1983 does not currently orbit Neptune's moon Triton, because it's impossible to know everything for sure. Good point.

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Reread the post I was replying to.

"In reality there are no ghosts and there is nothing like a god.."

Unlike your theoretical blender, which *can* be physically confirmed if we are close enough, the above assertion cannot be disproven, and thus is outside the realm of science. In the same way we cannot yet prove the existence of alternate dimensions. According to the mathematics of string theory, they should be there, but no one can confirm it, and so saying they exist or don't *as a definite certainty* is foolishness. Even theories that *seem* to work with the facts have turned out to be wrong.
We simply don't know enough about how the Universe actually works to be certain of most things.

That, btw, is not an assertion of any kind of faith on my part. Generally I don't believe in ghosts myself... But I do know some highly trustworthy people who have experienced some severely weird *beep* There is enough weird *beep* going on in the world to realize we don't know everything about everything, and such assertions *could* be wrong.



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Nice try lumping in alternate dimensions (something backed up by scientific theory) with ghosts and gods (things created by man, making them more like a blender).

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If you know anything about string theory, you would know those alternate dimensions, while *necessary* to make the theory work, cannot be *proven* by any means known to science, and therefore are much more like ghosts than you seem to think.


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I'm an atheist and I like the Conjuring movies a lot. Yeah, the characters are religious. It's a movie about ghosts and demons FFS, that's gonna come with the territory. No one says you can't like movies where the characters believe different things than you do.

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I HATE Christianity and was not offended by this movie at all, I get offended by stuff like Prometheus: now THAT is shoving a disgusting Christian message down your throat.

And can please IMDB stop putting capital letters on that filthy word that only reminds me of lies, deceit, death and torture????

Well, at least "Satanist" gets a capital letter too : that's fair :)

But "atheist" doesn't : why ?

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