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Chuck was right about Jimmy

posted 3 years ago by Boricanator (1461)
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Jimmy is damaged goods. He has been bad since he started stealing from his dad. He played a role in driving his poor old man to bankruptcy and an early grave.

The only time Jimmy wasn’t hurting someone was when he was working at the firm. Chuck knew this was the only way to prevent Jimmy from hurting others.

Jimmy with a law degree really is a chimp with a machine gun. He can’t help himself. And he did cause a lot of suffering and death.

Without a law degree, Jimmy simply scammed a few bucks from some idiots. But with a law degree, he presented fraudulent evidence that allowed a Cartel member to go free and many people have been hurt in the process.

I wish people would stop blaming Chuck for Jimmy being so rotten. Jimmy is an adult and Chuck was not his father. Jimmy is a natural conman that would always hurt people.

[–] lordofthelake (147) 3 years ago

Yeah, he was.

[–] damocci (1516) 3 years ago

People see nothing wrong with anything Jimmy has done and that's a testament to just how morally bankrupt society has become.

I started a thread a couple of weeks ago asking what people think Jimmy deserved by the end of season 5, expecting that at a minimum we would all agree that he deserves to spend some time behind bars. Instead most were quick to defend him and denigrate Howard, who I actually think is a good, contributing member of society.

People like Saul Goodman, Walter White, Dexter Morgan, Tony Soprano, Tony Montana, Gordon Gecko, Jordan Belfort, the Corleones etc are NOT people the audience should be defending and cheering. We can find them fascinating and interesting but they are not heroes.

[–] rootvegetables (1885) 3 years ago

What does Jimmy deserve?
A lifetime 10% employees discount at Cinnabon.

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[–] mtxmind (3296) 3 years ago

Thank you for your insightful contribuation to the subject matter.👿

Now if you've gotten that out of your system, could you at least offer a real answer? No more half measures.......😜

[–] Adster (262) 3 years ago

you feel the same about Donald Draper??

I completely disagree about Dexter Morgan though he only killed murderers how was he bad for society? if anything Deb Morgan was the worst out of them she had to kill a innocent person when her brother was going to give it all up.

Vic from the shield is another one that people cheer for that you probably shouldn't. but we all did and we really shouldn't from the end of the Pilot

[–] Boricanator (1461) 3 years ago

I completely disagree about Dexter Morgan though he only killed murderers how was he bad for society? if anything Deb Morgan was the worst out of them she had to kill a innocent person when her brother was going to give it all up.

Dexter was indirectly responsible of Doake’s death. He also ended killing an innocent person by accident because he was sleep deprived.

In general, he was constantly putting people in danger with his double life. Rita died because of that.

And in the new series, he kills Logan, another innocent person.

[–] Adster (262) 3 years ago

the Logan killing was out of character and rushed I hated that ending. Dexter would never have done that. I enjoyed New Blood until that point.

The clever thing about all those characters are that we can feel sorry for them at lots of point during the series but then completely hate them but still be able to love and root for them by the end.

[–] jekporkins (1984) 3 years ago

Vic from The Sheild was such a fascinating character. I have binged that series four times and every time I find more nuance. Why am I rooting for him? Am I really rooting for him? Sometimes I want him to get caught. In my opinion the last episode was the best finale of all time.

[–] Fandango (535) 3 years ago

Thank you for the insightful post.

Morality is moribund. Even if one were to look back to the exordium of the 20th century, there were few, if any, noble figures that one could look up to. Who was praised? Hemingway, Fitzgerald, Bukowski, etc. Men whose works reflected the general aimlessness of their own lives. Men who drank themselves until they were terminally infirm, analogs of contemporary rudderless drug dependents.

Today's protagonists have few discernible positive moral qualities. They are not characters to extol or aspire toward. They are symbols of pathos, and they mirror the interminable state of acedia a growing segment of the population suffers from.

[–] TearofLys (2666) 3 years ago

Not to mention how ruthless he was to a well-meaning Howard Hamlin or how he pitched prison shanking his own client (Badger) in BB. He is an entertaining character, but like Walter, is deserving of his ultimate fate.