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TOTAL GARBAGE!! Here are the facts:


This show was worthless tripe that basically attempts to make the Warren Commission look right. I mean, if you're gonna take that route, at least stick to the facts. And they are:

FACT #1: Lee did not touch any of the boxes in the snipers nest because his fingerprints were not on any of them. There were also no gloves to be found but this idiotic show shows him touching and grabbing the boxes. The only fingerprint ever found was a fingerprint of a pinky. That fingerprint turned out to be Malcolm Wallace's. He was a henchmen of LBJ's and did his dirty work for him including killing for him.

FACT #2: There were no fingerprints or face-prints of Lee on the rifle until after the police and FBI visited the funeral home were Lee's body was being prepared. The funeral director stated in an interview that after the police left, there was fingerprinting ink on Lee's fingers. That was not there before the police got there.

FACT #3: That rifle was a piece of crap. When ballistics tried to use it, the scope was off and could not be aimed without shims. There was a crack in the glass of the scope as well. That rifle could not have been used as the murder weapon because it was so inaccurate.

FACT #4: George Mohrenschildt, Lee's handler, stated in an interview that Oswald had been the scapegoat in the assassination of President Kennedy.

FACT #5: Contrary to what this idiotic show displayed, Marina did not wash clothes at Lee's apartment. It would have been a ridiculous inconvenience to drag all those clothes from the house she was living in to the apartment.

FACT #6: After JFK is shot at, you see people running towards the TSBD. That did not happen. People ran to the grassy knoll from where they heard the shots.

FACT #7: After the shots rang out, the limo did not immediately take off. In fact, witnesses confirmed that the limo driver, William Greer (may he rot in Hell) slowed down and virtually stopped the car. You can see that happen in the Marie Muchmore film. Greer, ignored the direct order of his superior who was seated next to him to get the hell out of there, and only accelerated out of the area when he saw the fatal shot being made.

FACT #8: While the initial paraffin test indicated that Lee may have shot a gun that day, it totally absolves him of having used a rifle because no gunpowder was found on either cheek. When the paraffin was analyzed further, it showed that Lee had not used any gun or rifle that day. When confronted with that fact, what did the Warren Commission do? It threw out the results as being unreliable.

FACT #9: In this show, Zapruder was standing on the grassy knoll but in real life, he was standing on a concrete block and being held in place by his secretary because Zapruder had vertigo.

There's lots more but these are the ones that jump right out at me. Seriously, if Stephen King was gonna write a book going along with the Warren Commission, he really wasted an enormous opportunity to weave a great story out of a more complex conspiracy. If King were here in front of me now, I would spit in his face for his lies and betrayal of the facts. In fact, I hereby defecate upon this stupid miniseries, book, and on Stephen King himself.

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I know, this was the worst documentary ever!

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You thought this was a documentary? No, my friend, it was a drama based on a factual event. My only concern was that when portraying the factual issues that actual facts are used.

Did you have a chance to read the OP facts I cited but were ignored or twisted in the show? If you haven't, would you please review it when you have a chance?

God bless you and thank you for your response.

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You guys are missing the point ---

Point of the series is Lee Harvey saved the world a terrible catastrophe by knocking JFK out ---


So celebrate the great Barack we have today !!!

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Ummm, looks like you missed the point of the story. The point is the past is the past.

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I agree with you, total waste of opportunity.
Having this show the way is done is such a waste of potential.

Why follow LHO? He was just a patsy he said it himself. Follow LBJ and his behaviour and meetings, Nixon, G W Bush, Hoover... JFKs generals...etc

What would make this show really great is Jake going back and explore every conspiracy theory one by one using real facts, eye witness statements and available documents and pictures and let us decide which one sticks...

Maybe now is the time to ask your government to release all documents, pictures and videos related to JFK assassination they have been holding on to for the last 53 years.

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I read the book a good read the mini series was fun ,I cant get my head around people that cant enjoy works of fiction,its a story about time travel and the jfk shooting is just a back story for the players in this story,king isn't trying to make a statement about what happened its just a work of fiction that seems to have upset many people on the left of the political spectrum,it would be more acceptable to them if it was a politician on the right that caused the war that destroyed the world not their beloved jfk,i lived through the Cuban crisis and the killing of kennedy,will anyone ever be positive what really happened most likely not so its fair game for writters to make up twists and plots to entertain us.thanks sk.

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The JFK assassination wasn't the central theme of the book, it was simply a plot device. King did a ton of research on all the conspiracy theories and he believes that Oswald acted alone and that's what he framed his story around. There are plenty of conspiracy theory books you can read.

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Dude, you are arguing against a show that has a premise that people can go back in time by entering a closet!


The show isn't about being 100% dead on about every detail regarding the assassination-attempt on JFK, but how messing with the past, most likely ruins the future.

Calm down =)

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