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A TV series about Japan that takes place in Japan and has actors from Japan.

posted 9 months ago by samoanjoes (56734)
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Filmed in Vancouver.

[–] PrimeMinisterX (8711) 9 months ago

I'm sure you already know why. A foreign production actually filming in Japan is difficult and far more expensive.

In today's age of movie magic, I'm sure they'll make it look just like 17th century Japan.

[–] samoanjoes (56734) 9 months ago

As a Canadian, I'm very aware. I always think it's funny.

[–] UMAD (655) 9 months ago

it looks cheap already. sorry to ruin it for you that numer 1

number 2: weve got enough productions from japan glamorizing this class of psychopaths,rapists and murderers.

[–] Skavau (15993) 9 months ago

>number 2: weve got enough productions from japan glamorizing this class of psychopaths,rapists and murderers.

Japanese period dramas "glamorise" psychopaths, rapists and murderers?

[–] UMAD (655) 9 months ago

yes? talking about the samurai class that the japanese film industry glamorize in their movies. aside from 2 distinct movies from the 60's. one is "harakiri" the other is "samurai rebelion" those 2 exposed samurai ruthlessness.

[–] Skavau (15993) 9 months ago

And the UK "glamourises" (or once did) the British Empire in period settings. And the USA once glorified their expansion westwards via westerns.

Do you just expect Japan to never depict samurais again? You are coming across as a puritanical bore.

[–] UMAD (655) 9 months ago

european period pieces usually dont glamorize the middle ages or roman ages or any other age. japanese period pieces do. again and again and again. there is little to 0 realism in their drama pieces.

[–] Skavau (15993) 9 months ago

Since this specifically is not a Japanese production, I very much doubt this will glamourise this.

By "glamorise" do you specifically mean they don't show them being psychopaths, rapists and murderers?

[–] UMAD (655) 9 months ago

worse, they make up lies and attribute them to the samurai. or even worse. they romanticize them. just for common knowledge. the samurai class does not equal japanese people. the majority of the japanese in fedual japan were not samurai. the samurai were the very selected few clans that ruled over japan. and while they ruled they commited atrocities against the people on a daily basis.

[–] Skavau (15993) 9 months ago

Plenty of historical british dramas have romanticised the aristocracy and royals of that time. I mean we "romanticise" pirates too in fiction.

[–] PrimeMinisterX (8711) 9 months ago

The British Empire was pretty dope, really. It's a shame that Brits now are ashamed of the accomplishment of their forebears.

[–] Skavau (15993) 9 months ago

Warrior was a TV show about Chinese immigrants in San Francisco, primarily comprised of actors not from China, who can't speak Mandarin. And filmed in South Africa.

So?

[–] samoanjoes (56734) 9 months ago

Vancouver filling in for feudal Japan is funny to me.

[–] liscarkat (18410) 9 months ago

It's not like they're filming out on Seymour Street. They're on a set, so it doesn't matter where it's located.

[–] samoanjoes (56734) 9 months ago

It matters because as a Canadian, I'm sick of all these productions using our tax credit to benefit themselves because it's cheaper.

[–] Darren (1342) 9 months ago

you realize your government extended those tax credits, to make it cheaper, precisely in order to attract production companies to Canada, and they don't just employ the people they bring with them? This also gives work to Canadian actors, directors, stage hands, grips, craft service providers, and all the other people in that industry.

Honestly, this is a complaint that truly mystifies me. "How dare they come here, employ people, and pump money into the local economy! The nerve of these people! Begone! And take your damned foreign dollars with you!"

[–] samoanjoes (56734) 9 months ago

Are you Canadian? If not, I can explain why I made my statements.

[–] Darren (1342) 9 months ago

Not Canadian. Go ahead and explain, if you like, but it sounds like the people you really need to convince this is a bad thing are your elected representatives.

[–] samoanjoes (56734) 9 months ago

So here there is a thing called CanCon (Canadian content) which was implemented to keep things Canadian, but it doesn't work when American productions come to Canada. When American productions come in, they use the Canadian tax exemptions to lessen the costs of their American production. The profits they see will mostly be American. This is why you hardly see any American films that are filmed in Canada actually take place in Canada. American distributors generally don't like their productions taking place in Canadian cities. Canada has yet to produce a huge blockbuster film solely because of this. Americans come in, use the talent, use the locations and try to mask it all as their own.

In the grand scheme of things, this is why it's extremely rare for a Canadian actor or director to become famous for Canadian productions. It isn't until they move to the US that they begin to see an uphill trajectory of their career, even though Canada has all the means to do it.

And yes, it's definitely the problem of elected officials for most of it.