What's a rapture?
Serious question.
sharehttp://www.christianbiblereference.org/faq_rapture.htm - Go to this site and you will learn what we believe! I really hope it helps buddy!
shareDo you also believe in Santa Claus and the tooth fairy? Makes about as much sense as that Biblical nonsense.
sharegtpunch, I understand your hesitation and fear... thus resorting to commenting publicly against my post so as to search for acceptance for your misguided beliefs. However, despite how you feel or what you believe, I truly pray that someday somehow you find God and Jesus. That way you can understand just how incredible and blessed we all are to have a savior like Him and so that one day you too can join us in paradise forevermore! And to answer your question... no I don't believe in either of those fairy tales; you see they don't make near as much sense as the Bible. The Bible is FACT and serves a legitimate purpose, to SAVE and HELP and CARE and BLESS and TEACH and INSPIRE and LOVE and STRENGTHEN and UPLIFT people... not provide a reason for presents and money (GREED), which are sinful in nature. I hope this answers your question. Good day and God bless my friend! 😃
shareHey, I wanna find them too. Than I could ask what were they smoking.
shareRead Exodus 30:23 for the formula for 'Holy Anointing Oil', which they didn't smoke but it still had the same effect, absorbed through the skin. Jesus was covered in the stuff 24 hours a day. Also, he handed it liberally to his followers, that's why he was called teh Anointed one and they were called The Anointed.
Fun trivia, the name of the ingredient is almost the same back then as it is today. Back then, kanai-buson. Today, cannibus. Translated it means 'aromatic reed' or 'stinky weed'. Stinky weed, indeed.
Back in the day, 'worship' was a creative way to say 'do drugs'. 'Hey do you want to go worship in this tent?' means 'lets go put all our drugs in a little pile in a closed tent, light them on fire and sit there until we find god.'
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Hate resurrecting an old post but I can't stand people spouting nonsense about something they know nothing about, even in a thread about a movie. The irony in attacking the people that have a christian belief is that your doing the same thing by pushing your own agenda. I'm all for finding a purpose in life or a belief if you will but you're no better than the christian belief pushers.
Exodus 30:23-25
23 “Take the following fine spices: 500 shekels[a] of liquid myrrh, half as much (that is, 250 shekels) of fragrant cinnamon, 250 shekels[b] of fragrant calamus, 24 500 shekels of cassia — all according to the sanctuary shekel—and a hin[c] of olive oil. 25 Make these into a sacred anointing oil, a fragrant blend, the work of a perfumer. It will be the sacred anointing oil.
Let us go over each of these so everyone is clear on anointed oil and what it was made of.
First the measurement - Shekel - (sheqel, Akkadian: šiqlu or siqlu, Hebrew: שקל, pl. shekels, sheqels, sheqalim, Hebrew: שקלים), is any of several ancient units of weight or of currency. The first usage is from Mesopotamia around 3000 BC. Initially, it may have referred to a weight of barley.
Myrrh - Myrrh from the Arabic مر, is the aromatic resin of a number of small, thorny tree species of the genus Commiphora, which is an essential oil termed an oleoresin. Myrrh resin is a natural gum.
Cinnamon - Cinnamon is a spice obtained from the inner bark of several trees from the genus Cinnamomum that is used in both sweet and savoury foods.
Calamus - Acorus calamus is a tall perennial wetland monocot of the Acoraceae family, in the genus Acorus. In spite of common names that include the words "rush" and "sedge," it is neither a rush nor sedge. The scented leaves and more strongly scented rhizomes have traditionally been used medicinally and to make fragrances, and the dried and powdered rhizome has been used as a substitute for ginger, cinnamon and nutmeg.
Cassia - It is one of several species of Cinnamomum used primarily for their aromatic bark, which is used as a spice. In the United States, Chinese cassia is the most common type of cinnamon used. The buds are also used as a spice, especially in India, and were once used by the ancient Romans.
Olive Oil - Olive oil is a fat obtained from the olive, a traditional tree crop of the Mediterranean Basin. The oil is produced by pressing whole olives. share
You're using a convenient translation for your position but it's hardly the only translation. Go find the original text and you will find 'Calamus' is actually Keneh-Bosem. Kaneh-Bus(em). Cannibus.
http://www.herbmuseum.ca/content/keneh-bosem-exodus-3023
He was covered in the stuff head to foot, it's why they called him 'The Anointed One'. He had buckets of it, he'd gladly cover anyone in it and that's when they 'met god'. From then on, they thought the oil was pretty awesome too, and wore it so much all his people became known as 'The Anointed'. Jesus and his followers were a giant pack of potheads. I have no problem with that. Cannibus should be legal. But the idea of denying it because it does not conform with your current version of Jesus just proves my point, you should just think for yourself without the need for thousand year old dogma written and translated by people with nothing more in mind than controlling simpletons.
International Standard Version
"You are to take for yourself the finest spices: 500 shekels by weight of liquid myrrh, half as much fragrant cinnamon (250 shekels), 250 shekels of fragrant reeds,
http://biblehub.com/exodus/30-23.htm
A review of the dozens of the translations show that of them all, only a handful (the most modern English versions, in particular), call it calamus. The rest vary in their description from 'Sweet-cane' to 'aromatic reed' to 'aromatic cane'. It's exactly like I said. Stinky weed that helps you meet God.
And even if all of them called it calamus it wouldn't matter because no one really knows what calamus is.
From an international panel of experts on the Bible:
Sweet calamus. Aromatic reeds, probably of several distinct kind, seem to have been the produce anciently of Palestine, Arabia, Mesopotamia, and India. It is impossible to say what exactly was the species here intended. Calamus is mentioned as a spice in Isaiah 43:24; Jeremiah 6:20; Ezekiel 27:17; and Song of Solomon 4:14; but the term used (kaneh, "cane ") is vague; and it is not at all clear that one species only is alluded to.
So, clearly you can not know what you claim to, but you assert it as fact anyways. Because you are lying, and you know it.
Just another example of hypocrite, wanna-be Christians, too busy judging people to notice how insane they are. share
Who the hell said I was a christian? I never said that. You assume I am because I dispute your point? Also there is nothing in what you quoted that proves anything. I seriously doubt that a person either then or today calls cannibus a fragrant reed....one...it's not a reed...two....it's not fragrant, it stinks. I can just picture it, old testament perfumer mixing oil "Let's see, one part myrhh...mmm smells nice. Ok lets add a little cinnamon...wow we're getting somewhere now, smells great. Oh hey! How about some cannibus!" No,sorry but I can't see that.
How do you know he was covered in it? Where is the proof in that? How do you know he had buckets? Where is your proof? I'm not saying he did or didn't but without proof your words don't mean anything. I gave you literal proof and you say it's not valid or skewed to get my point across. I spent 2 minutes looking up the verse you quoted and that was the second one on Google and I quoted it simply because it was easy to copy/paste...don't believe me, Google it yourself.
As far as the plant calamus goes, there actually IS a plant called calamus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acorus_calamus) which I proved is fragrant and does grow in the area where this oil would have been made. Yet you simply ignore this point because you want to push your christian hate/think for yourself ideology. If you were truly promoting a think for yourself ideology then you would be intelligent enough to consider all perspectives and might consider you were wrong. Who knows, I might be wrong too but at least I can admit it....can you?
Not all Christians believe in a rapture. I choose to believe in what the bible says about Christ's return and one can read Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21 to get that. (as well as the rest of the bible, but those are the specific chapters about the signs and the seasons of Christ return.) Not from some website. No offense honestly but the rapture is a doctrine based on verses taken out of context.
I used to believe in a "rapture" as well but upon study it's not biblical.