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1). The first 60-65% of the movie takes place in a crowded arena, which we should presume would have working cameras (especially with the FBI set-up to catch Harnett). We indeed see one scene when Lady Raven talks to the old FBI lady backstage. The scene occurs in a room where the FBI is watching video surveillance, so there were cameras set-up in the arena.

2). Given the above ^ ... when Hartnett pushes the girl down the stairs and drops those bottles in the fryer, is the audience meant to believe that nobody in the crowded arena actually sees him? And how is it possible that none of the cameras catch him in those actions? When the girl gets burned, they have to bring an ambulance to take her away. Did none of the FBI agents think, "Hey, lemme watch the video footage to see how this incident happened"

3). Hartnett at one point takes one of the officer's radios. He sets up a very conspicuous ear-piece to listen to them, and he walks around the crowded arena with the ear-piece showing. In that crowded arena with thorough video surveillance, nobody said, "Hey ... why is that civilian walking around with an ear-piece"?

4). The idea that Hartnett happens to meet a low-ranking vendor worker who spills the beans on the whole operation, even giving Hartnett the code-word, is quite convenient. I have to wonder why the FBI would even tell this low-ranking minimum wage vendor worker all this important information too. That Harnett could grab his vendor's keycard from his back-pocket is also quite convenient

5). The radio indicates that the FBI suspects the Butcher may have a tattoo of a rabbit on his wrist. So Hartnett happens to notice that the person sitting in front of him has a wristband: I find that occurrence to be way too convenient

6). Hartnett's daughter explains to him that Lady Raven brings a fangirl on stage for her 2nd to last song. So Hartnett just happens to go talk to a random Indian dude, who happens to be Lady Raven's uncle. Did Hartnett know or suspect that this random guy would be Lady Raven's uncle? And how convenient that Lady Raven's uncle buys Hartnett's story about cancer, and then how convenient that Lady Raven's uncle decides to choose Hartnett's daughter to go on stage

7). The movie gets into details involving the daughter's beef with two other girls. This plot detail goes nowhere at the end though, so M. Night put this plot detail in the movie just to throw the viewers off with a red herring or something?

8). Hartnett conveniently has a tunnel that goes to the neighbor's place. But how did he manage to subdue a SWAT officer and don the SWAT gear so quickly? What happened to Lady Raven's driver, the black dude? How did none of the SWAT officers see Hartnett during all of these events?

9). The limo is surrounded by a mass of people watching Hartnett, the suspicious guy dressed like a SWAT officer while driving a world-famous pop-star. How did Hartnett manage to change his clothes so quickly, exit the vehicle, and blend in the crowd without anyone seeing or noticing him?

10). The FBI knows that Hartnett is the Butcher, a violent serial killer. So when they catch him in the kitchen at the end, why are trying to subdue him with tasers? Since he's a killer, they would shoot to kill. Instead, he ends up taking out an officer's eyes

11). Related to #10, they know he's an elusive serial killer. Why did they allow him to go near the bicycle, and why did they allow the daughter to go hug him? Both are risky actions, especially the latter

12). Lady Raven talks to the FBI lady backstage, who gives privileged information about their search for a violent serial killer. Why is the FBI giving Lady Raven, a pop-star, this kind of briefing? In the car scene, Lady Raven starts talking like Hartnett's mother to trip him up, to which Hartnett says that "they've been telling you things." Again, why did the FBI give Lady Raven this privileged information about Hartnett's character, such as his mother issues? Is Lady Raven an FBI agent or something?

13). Why would the driver allow Lady Raven to go alone inside the house of a family she doesn't know? We're led to believe that Lady Raven is a pop star on the level of Olivia Rodrigo or Dua Lipa. Wouldn't she require some kind of escort or security in case this family tries to kidnap her or hurt her? The audience has to strain belief to accept that the driver would let her go all alone inside that house filled with people she doesn't know

14). At the end, the wife is really the one to deliver the "trap," and she does the big reveal where she admits that she tipped off the FBI. I found this part to be an unsatisfying conclusion. I feel the daughter should have delivered the "kill" at the end because most of the movie developed the father-daughter relationship: the daughter would've made that scene more emotionally charged than the wife did

15). The post-credits scene was quite unnecessary and unfunny

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This movie is campy and fun which is why I enjoyed for what it was. I think it's far better than most films that have come out so far.

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I think it's a decent one with some unique ideas. Not the greatest but not the worst.

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1). The first 60-65% of the movie takes place in a crowded arena, which we should presume would have working cameras (especially with the FBI set-up to catch Harnett). We indeed see one scene when Lady Raven talks to the old FBI lady backstage. The scene occurs in a room where the FBI is watching video surveillance, so there were cameras set-up in the arena.


The arena was built a long time ago, so there were no cameras, and the city was at the brink of bankruptcy, they had no money. And the FBI didn't have time to set up cameras, because they knew he would show up in 11 hours.

2). Given the above ^ ... when Hartnett pushes the girl down the stairs and drops those bottles in the fryer, is the audience meant to believe that nobody in the crowded arena actually sees him? And how is it possible that none of the cameras catch him in those actions? When the girl gets burned, they have to bring an ambulance to take her away. Did none of the FBI agents think, "Hey, lemme watch the video footage to see how this incident happened"


Like I said above: No cameras in the arena. And he is very careful not to be seen. Come on! When is the last time you care about people around you? The movie was set in the present time! Right now anyone is looking at their phones!

3). Hartnett at one point takes one of the officer's radios. He sets up a very conspicuous ear-piece to listen to them, and he walks around the crowded arena with the ear-piece showing. In that crowded arena with thorough video surveillance, nobody said, "Hey ... why is that civilian walking around with an ear-piece"?


They think it's a hearing aid or he is an undercover cop.

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Dude … there’s a whole scene where lady raven talks to the old lady. They’re inside a room where the FBI agents are monitoring camera feeds. The arena was modern, with lots of cameras around

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Ok, minimal cameras. Because at the 11th hour, the FBI only had time to set up several cameras, not enough to cover the entire stadium, and the killer noticed most places had no cameras. It's not a casino, why would you want to have cameras on every corner of a concert arena?

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4). The idea that Hartnett happens to meet a low-ranking vendor worker who spills the beans on the whole operation, even giving Hartnett the code-word, is quite convenient. I have to wonder why the FBI would even tell this low-ranking minimum wage vendor worker all this important information too. That Harnett could grab his vendor's keycard from his back-pocket is also quite convenient

There was no evidence the killer was the only one who knew the secret from the worker. We can assume many workers spilled the secret to many people. Grab keycard? How hard can it be for a criminal like him? He even knew how to unlock handcuffs. The movie made it clear when he was a kid he already behaved abnormally, every criminal starts with a small crime.
5). The radio indicates that the FBI suspects the Butcher may have a tattoo of a rabbit on his wrist. So Hartnett happens to notice that the person sitting in front of him has a wristband: I find that occurrence to be way too convenient

A lot of people in concerts have wristbands.
6). Hartnett's daughter explains to him that Lady Raven brings a fangirl on stage for her 2nd to last song. So Hartnett just happens to go talk to a random Indian dude, who happens to be Lady Raven's uncle. Did Hartnett know or suspect that this random guy would be Lady Raven's uncle? And how convenient that Lady Raven's uncle buys Hartnett's story about cancer, and then how convenient that Lady Raven's uncle decides to choose Hartnett's daughter to go on stage

He didn't know the guy was her uncle, he just knew he was a worker, which is enough to make his plan work, a worker will accept the story. uncle or not didn't matter. (I think the movie made him an uncle because he was played by the director, and people will notice he and the singer have the same skin color.)

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7). The movie gets into details involving the daughter's beef with two other girls. This plot detail goes nowhere at the end though, so M. Night put this plot detail in the movie just to throw the viewers off with a red herring or something?


The plot was intense, because viewers knew he was a killer, and his family had an argument with another family. When I watched "beef" I kept thinking: Will he kill them too?

8). Hartnett conveniently has a tunnel that goes to the neighbor's place. But how did he manage to subdue a SWAT officer and don the SWAT gear so quickly? What happened to Lady Raven's driver, the black dude? How did none of the SWAT officers see Hartnett during all of these events?


Not conveniently, he is a serial killer, and without being caught, which means he is smart and plans everything. How hard is it to dig a tunnel? A 50 dollar shovel? SWAT? He must have a taser gun, which is handy for a killer. The driver? You need to watch the movie again, the movie clearly showed the killer asking the driver to get out of the car for him to drive.

9). The limo is surrounded by a mass of people watching Hartnett, the suspicious guy dressed like a SWAT officer while driving a world-famous pop-star. How did Hartnett manage to change his clothes so quickly, exit the vehicle, and blend in the crowd without anyone seeing or noticing him?


How hard can it be to change the clothes? And why would the crowd give a shit when he exited the car? All they cared about was the singer.

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10). The FBI knows that Hartnett is the Butcher, a violent serial killer. So when they catch him in the kitchen at the end, why are trying to subdue him with tasers? Since he's a killer, they would shoot to kill. Instead, he ends up taking out an officer's eyes.


The movie was made after BLM, and police were under a lot of stress from excessive force.

11). Related to #10, they know he's an elusive serial killer. Why did they allow him to go near the bicycle, and why did they allow the daughter to go hug him? Both are risky actions, especially the latter


Ricky? No, a bicycle can't be used as a weapon, and the daughter? Why not? Police are humans too! They knew the feelings of the daughter.

12). Lady Raven talks to the FBI lady backstage, who gives privileged information about their search for a violent serial killer. Why is the FBI giving Lady Raven, a pop-star, this kind of briefing? In the car scene, Lady Raven starts talking like Hartnett's mother to trip him up, to which Hartnett says that "they've been telling you things." Again, why did the FBI give Lady Raven this privileged information about Hartnett's character, such as his mother issues? Is Lady Raven an FBI agent or something?


As I said "11th hour," when police knew the killer would show up, they had no time to brief everyone separately, they had to call everyone, police, workers, the singer, in the same room to brief everyone at once.

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13). Why would the driver allow Lady Raven to go alone inside the house of a family she doesn't know? We're led to believe that Lady Raven is a pop star on the level of Olivia Rodrigo or Dua Lipa. Wouldn't she require some kind of escort or security in case this family tries to kidnap her or hurt her? The audience has to strain belief to accept that the driver would let her go all alone inside that house filled with people she doesn't know


The driver isn't The Secret Service! He was hired by her! How can he refuse the request of the boss? Do you want to be fired?

14). At the end, the wife is really the one to deliver the "trap," and she does the big reveal where she admits that she tipped off the FBI. I found this part to be an unsatisfying conclusion. I feel the daughter should have delivered the "kill" at the end because most of the movie developed the father-daughter relationship: the daughter would've made that scene more emotionally charged than the wife did


It's illogical, a teenage girl wouldn't notice such small things about their parents. Come on! We all once were teenagers, and when we were teenagers all we cared about were friends, movies, video games, singers, and phones! On the other hand, wives always keep an eye on their husbands.

15). The post-credits scene was quite unnecessary and unfunny


Agree. I like the movie, but I dislike the scene.

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