I find movies like this so disrespectful. - Me Before You (2016) Discussion

[–] slickr12345 9 years ago

Get over yourself, they don't have to do it, so the fact that they are about some illness no one cares about is more than anyone cares about it.

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[–] Charlotte_720 9 years ago

Seriously? They don't profess to know how paraplegics feel, and if anything roles like this raise awareness and understanding of a condition that many people will have no clue about and I truly believe movies like this slowly work towards stamping out disablism.

Based on your theory no actor should ever act out something they aren't personally experiencing? No one can ever play someone in the holocaust, or a victim of abuse, or play someone who is a comedian?

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[–] KaneKiller 9 years ago

or a victim of abuse

No, they shouldn't.

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[–] Bellatrix_B_Lestrange 9 years ago

So you'd rather have serious illnesses and abuse be swept under the rug and not highlighted at all? That seems a bit short-sighted.

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[–] KaneKiller 9 years ago

I don't want it shrugged under the rug at all. I don't know why you'd even think that. I want people to know about it. In documentaries with REAL abuse victims? Yes. In big budget movies with overpaid narcissistic actors pretending? God no.

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[–] backlash 8 years ago

First of all, you assume all paraplegic are exactly the same. Everyone has a different story. Who are you to say how some IMAGINARY character should be? It's a movie. It's not a documentary. You are either a troll or a complete moron.

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[–] summeriris 8 years ago

No, your point is not valid. Actors act, if you don't know that you seriously do have a perception problem. No one is saying that Sam Clafin knows what a quadriplegic goes through anymore than anyone is saying that he knew what a footballer who'es planed crashed in 'United' felt like as that football player was dying. Clafin does not pretend that he really is Duncan Edwards, the finest footballer of his generation, and he isn't saying that he is a quadriplegic either. He's an actor, this is a movie. Movies are fictional...that means they are not real people up there on the screen. If you don't understand that I'll repeat, you have a very real perception problem.

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[–] KaneKiller 8 years ago

And you have a very real retardation problem. Keep supporting these talentless hacks as they milk you idiots with these corporate products. I'll continue supporting the engineers of the world. You know, people that actually do things of actual substance for society.

I don't give a sh!t about money.

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[–] backlash 8 years ago

"And you have a very real retardation problem."

Well you definitely are a very bad troll with that statement. You couldn't stay on script. No one truly sympathetic to handicap people would accuse someone of "retardation" as an insult.

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[–] summeriris 8 years ago

No, your point is not valid. Actors act, if you don't know that you seriously do have a perception problem. No one is saying that Sam Clafin knows what a quadriplegic goes through anymore than anyone is saying that he knew what a footballer who'es planed crashed in 'United' felt like as that football player was dying. Clafin does not pretend that he really is Duncan Edwards, the finest footballer of his generation, and he isn't saying that he is a quadriplegic either. He's an actor, this is a movie. Movies are fictional...that means they are not real people up there on the screen. If you don't understand that I'll repeat, you have a very real perception problem.

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[–] KaneKiller 8 years ago

And you have a very real retardation problem. Keep supporting these talentless hacks as they milk you idiots with these corporate products. I'll continue supporting the engineers of the world. You know, people that actually do things of actual substance for society.

I don't give a sh!t about money.

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[–] summeriris 8 years ago

How do you know they are talent-less? Don't tell me you watch their movies? And what would all those engineers do for relaxation if they didn't have movies/entertainment to enjoy? Only idiots dismiss the arts...and yes actors make art. But don't get your knickers in too much of a twist, this was a British movie. The actors did not get paid nearly as much as they do in Hollywood. So you don't have to sh*t a large brick because they make more money than you do. A small one will do.

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[–] Pzachlen 8 years ago

Stephen Hawkins did not mind having his life dramatized on film. Eddie Redmayne was incredible. Painful to watch.

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[–] darren-oconnor 8 years ago

Got over yourself. Thankfully, you are not the arbiter of good taste or decency in entertainment. One of the ways that people become aware of issues like this is great literature or film or other entertainment, that informs as well as entertains. It can be done badly in all kinds of ways, but it can also be done quite well, and can tell inspiring stories.

"My Left Foot" was a great movie that told an inspiring story. If you had your way, it never would have been made. How DARE Daniel Day Lewis play a disabled man when he wasn't disabled! What an *beep* And that Tina Turner biopic. That's out too. By your standards, Angela Bassett had no right to depict the abuse Tina Turner suffered at Ike Turner's hands, so it has to go. Or, alternately, they could have made the movie and just skipped over that part of her life, would that suit you better?

Your position is sanctimonious nonsense.

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[–] atalanta88 8 years ago

>Based on your theory no actor should ever act out something they aren't personally experiencing? No one can ever play someone in the holocaust, or a victim of abuse, or play someone who is a comedian?

This is what I wanted to say. OP is way off here.

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[–] mmxl2 9 years ago

Please, never type or talk again, ever.

A thing is a thing, not what is said of that thing.

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[–] KaneKiller 9 years ago

Why should I listen to you?

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[–] PopSixSquish 8 years ago

I second this.

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[–] KaneKiller 8 years ago

Oops. The movie is apparently terrible according to Rotten Tomatoes. I was right, and you should never post anything ever again on the internet. Okay?

I don't give a sh!t about money.

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[–] PopSixSquish 8 years ago

I've read mixed reviews, but nothing that calls it terrible. I don't expect anything I haven't seen before in a romance, but this looks, for what it is, like a very moving story.

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[–] KaneKiller 8 years ago

Erm, how about you read a few more, yeah? The movie apparently treats disability in an insensitive manner. Which means I was RIGHT, and you was WRONG. As I said, don't ever use the internet ever again, okay?

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[–] PopSixSquish 8 years ago

I'm not wrong. I've heard more than enough from people who've seen it (and read the book) to get that it's an extremely sensitive tear-jerker.

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[–] PopSixSquish 8 years ago

Suuuuper-weak trolling from a completely clueless idiot. *yawn*

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[–] KaneKiller 8 years ago

You can call it trolling all you want, honey. You're the one who went into loads of debt for a worthless degree. And you've made it so everyone can see that. You're a very silly, stupid human being. And you have my pity.

I don't give a sh!t about money.

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[–] PopSixSquish 8 years ago

That's the very definition of it. I'll lmao if you actually think I have debt.
(Also, totally off-topic, but no degrees are worthless--even "gender studies" and the like continue to be taught, so you can always teach the subjects to others if that's your choice of major. xD Or maybe perform studies or what-the-heck-ever. But oh, the irony of that particular trollage from someone using IMDb.com.)

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[–] PopSixSquish 8 years ago

Worthless/useless=incapable of having a conversation about a movie, instantly leaps to textbook troll nonsense that speaks of boredom, boundless stupidity, and an utter lack of any type of skill. Pitiful imbecile and/or someone who just gets a rise out of spewing meaningless, false, random, childish, tiresome garbage for zero reason. The mere existence of whatever controls this account that keeps replying to mine has less than no worth; so truly pathetic it's sad. So much off-topic drivel...

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[–] KaneKiller 8 years ago

You. Are. Worthless. And you will be up until your pathetic life ends. I'm always glad to bring someone who thinks they're intelligent down. Oh, you think you're intelligent just because you went to college? That couldn't be further from the truth. And conversation? There was nothing to talk about. You're an idiot. Who likes a movie made for idiots. And I proved to everyone that you are an official idiot. You even have the documents to prove it. It's called a communications degree.

Adios, chump.

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[–] PopSixSquish 8 years ago

Oh right, forgot it's Opposite Day; on the other 364, truthfulness would require me to have said that. Thanks for the reminder, and buh-bye!

(P.S. You wouldn't know intelligence if it bit you, because evidently all you've got is words like "idiot" and an unsubstantiated opinion about a movie you probably haven't even watched ("it's stupid and so is everyone that likes it." Classic, dime-a-dozen troll.) You expressed not one valid, legitimate, relevant thought, told nobody anything, & literally defined 'worthless idiot scum' via your inane rambling. G'day mate.)

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[–] KaneKiller 8 years ago

I'm so glad you're leaving! Go take a long hard look at that worthless piece of paper, and ask yourself "was it worth it?" The answer is "no."

God, the people who like this movie truly are the bottom of the barrel in human beings.

Truly worthless.

(P.S I didn't post one one valid, legitimate, relevant thought? That must've been what your professors were thinking when you spent so much money on that worthless degree writing those essays. ;) I use the term "idiot" because you are an idiot. It's as simple as that, friend.)

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[–] PopSixSquish 8 years ago

😕 ...Seriously, the heck did this movie ever do to you?!? O_o This is hilarious but kind of baffling.

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[–] KaneKiller 8 years ago

Oh, you're still here? How droll. I would've thought you'd be crying into that worthless piece of paper by now. 

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[–] PopSixSquish 8 years ago

Still laughing, but done. 😂

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[–] KaneKiller 8 years ago

Laughter heals the pain of your life, I'm sure. 

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[–] PopSixSquish 8 years ago

I have only joy to be balanced with sad movies. ;p

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[–] KaneKiller 8 years ago

Mmhmm. Off you go now.

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[–] PopSixSquish 8 years ago

Avec grand plaisir.

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[–] KaneKiller 8 years ago

Pseudo intellectual. Dumb. Lazy. But what can I expect from someone like you who was too lazy to do math in college? You're so lazy you can't even be bothered to go to Rotten Tomatoes to see the reviews that tear this movie apart for the being the stupid, manipulative, exploitative movie it is. And keep editing your older posts. Keep editing them all week if it makes you feel better. You're not fooling anyone. You're completely worthless, and editing your earlier posts whilst crying into your worthless piece of paper changes nothing.

Have a great day. Have a great life.

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[–] victoriairis 9 years ago

Alright so the details of the movie are not great, (and I care for people with spinal and neurological conditions, so I do know)
But to say this film is disrespectful is rubbish.
It's not just about how paraplegics live, its main focus is that people should be allowed to live (and die) the way they want to.
I've read the book and one of the points that comes across is that suddenly everyone is making decisions for him and just assuming he needs/wants. No matter what condition a person is in, they should always be treated like anyone else, with rights and choices, dignity, and to be included, the same as everyone else. THATS what this film is about. Giving anyone regardless of their mental or physical state, the same respect as everyone else.
Disrespectful my foot.

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[–] cmAngel 9 years ago

Very true.
And as said from above, if anything it brings awareness to the situation.
While reading the book, the chapter where they go to the concert and Lou is describing how people act toward Will, I couldn't help but think, "I hope hope hope I don't come off as one of those rude people."
It brought quite a few things into perspective for me, hopefully it does the same for others.

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[–] jjparish 9 years ago

I dont even know where to begin with a topic this dumb. Reminds me of all those sheep bleating on about eddie redmayne in the danish girl and how only a trans actor should have played that role.

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[–] KaneKiller 9 years ago

Please explain how it's dumb?

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[–] diamond_unicorn08 8 years ago

"Assuming what he needs/wants"

Kind of like how the author, director, and actors all assumed what people with quadriplegia experience without ever talking to anyone with it personally before writing the book and filming the movie.

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[–] KaneKiller 8 years ago

Exactly, dude!

I don't give a sh!t about money.

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[–] hawaiiroots 9 years ago

The same can be said about cancer patient movies... or any movie.

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[–] ralph_willems_1990 9 years ago

Sorry to hear about your father, but this is one of the dumbest things i have read in a long time, with this state of mind Movies Will be gone in a year because nobody can Play anything because they don't or haven't experienced.

And May i please remind you you are one of very few to bitch about something like this, a few posts above me you said acting out an abuse victim is a nono, but 9/10 times actual victims don't mind it, they want People to know, for it to reach a bigger audience.

Just finished the book yesterday, it was a rollercoaster of emotions, i cried like a baby when i was at the last pages and it put my mind in perspective, it's going to stick for a long time and gave me a different view of things, if this movie can do the same for non readers it's only a good thing.

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[–] YoungSinema1 9 years ago

You can't be serious. Big budget movies raise awareness. Tons of people don't like documentaries, so a film like this can reach audiences that prefer to watch big budget films or their favorite actors.

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[–] KaneKiller 9 years ago

Yeah yeah. Keep sticking up for these actors who get paid more in a few months than you EVER will. It's f_cking pathetic how humans support this crap which was only made for loads of money, not awareness. Don't believe that's true? Enter the real world already.

The only morons here are all of you.

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[–] EllaIsNotAnOwl 9 years ago

I think given the nature of the story which bar the lead antagonist being a quad you don't seem to know much about, it's extremely relevant and brings something into the public light.

My father has cancer, I didn't boycott Fault in our Stars or 50/50. By your logic no movie should rely on anything palpable and that dear friend is moronic. This story doesn't romanticise disabilities. Shindlers List didn't romanticise the holocaust. I'm not for a moment comparing the two but the principle is the same.

To be offended by something like this makes you look childish. I sympathise with your situation but your father would be no better with or without stories like this just as my father wouldn't have found a cure had John Green not written Fault in our Stars.

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[–] rachelfast-49500 9 years ago

It just doesn't make sense to me why you even have an account on the internet movie database if you hate the fact that actors get payed so much for portraying a plethora of renditions of the human experience.

Yes, some movies do romanticize tragedy for money, but if this movie is anything like the book that's not what it's going to be like. It will raise awareness, as well as be entertaining, and hopefully inspire some empathy for those who are unfortunate enough to have to live with a terrible condition.

By your logic, any movie about anybody going through a hard time should not be made, because it's just for money. But that's what many movies are for; to celebrate the human spirit in face of adversity. You can't be an avid movie fan without empathy, and I honestly feel bad for you for seeing this movie, and many more I'm assuming, in such a negative light.

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[–] rachelfast-49500 9 years ago

Actually, I'm a chemistry major at an elite university. No wait, I'm a sociology student who studies Marxism and understands the exploitative foundations of society. No, actually you're right and I am a gender studies major and my head is full of air. Or, I could be computer programmer and am excellent at writing code.

My point is, your assumptions mean nothing because what I do in life neither belittles or substantiates my argument... ever heard of an ad hominem attack, where the arguer addresses the person's character or motive instead of their argument? It makes it useless to argue any further if one member is using logical fallacies such as you are (hence the reason I'm not going to expand on my point, because I have a strange feeling that you might just consider it "moronic"). However, the only thing more useless than arguing with someone on the internet about a movie if they're going to be rude is to argue about arguing with that person, so I digress!

That said, if your father is even really living as a paraplegic, and you aren't just a troll who gets kicks from pointless internet banter, I sincerely hopes he gets better. It must be terrible for him and you, and I'm so sorry for that.

If you want to be taken seriously (and yes I know this is the internet, so it doesn't matter) maybe become a bit more respectful and address solely the person's points, not anything else.

But, you said you were done arguing with me, so at least we're both in mutual agreement on that.

Have a good one! :)

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[–] KaneKiller 9 years ago

Not a troll at all, cheers. Just telling people like you that they should wake up to the real world. These movies are so exploitative of ordinary people, and their weaknesses. And I'm done with it.

Ta ta, though.

I hope you ponder on what I've said. If only a little.

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[–] rachelfast-49500 9 years ago

I'll definitely take what you said into consideration - and I do agree that some movies are exploitative, but I'm gonna hold off from developing an unalterable opinion until I actually see this one. Take care!

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[–] lookingforthemagic 9 years ago

I have to say I kind of agree? I fault the studios/directors/casting people more so though, because they're the ones who put out the casting calls and chances are they probably don't see actors who use a wheelchair. Which sucks. I'm sure there are actors who use wheelchairs who would love a part like this.

It's the same thing for Eddie Redmayne in The Danish Girl. There are probably loads of trans women who would love a role like that, but they're not even given the chance to play it.
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[–] KaneKiller 9 years ago

EXACTLY. this guy gets it.

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[–] summeriris 8 years ago

How many of those trans women are great actors? It's not just a matter of there being loads of trans women, there are loads of all types of women but there are not that many actors who can act like Eddie Redmayne. A small matter like talent does come into play here. And yes I'm sure that there are many disabled people out there who can act, Christopher Reeves acted after his accident. But frankly speaking, there are not that many roles for them to play. So what you want is lots the right disabled actors in the right roles of disabled people. Off you and the OP go, write the screenplays, set up the production companies, hire the staff and make the movies. I wish you well.

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