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This film can survive without Cusack


He's personally one of my favorite actors but he was not the driving force of the previous film. The best laughs and moments came from the rest of the cast. Cusack's character helped to level things out and have a SLIGHT sensitive side. I'm sure Adam Scott can fill that role just fine and still have an awesome film.

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So why is he not returning?

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Apparently the first movie wasn't much of a big deal to him... a comedy, tch! What do you take him for, some sort of clown? It's only a comedy every year or two, and it can't be some loser like "Hot Tub Time Machine"!
He does have a lot of films coming out, and honestly, he was not the one who provided the biggest laughs in first film anyway. It will just be a little weird to see Adam Scott in his role (though they kind of look similar in a way)... hopefully it works out well anyway.

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He actually wasn't even approached about doing this movie, and was surprised!

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I thought the same thing at first but then realized the budget of the first one was 32m and the sequel is 14m. Obviously Cusack didn't cost 18m but he would've been significantly more expensive than the rest of the cast and it's clear they had a limited budget to work with on the sequel (it's honestly insane that they halved the budget)

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Yowza, that's a big difference in budgets. The actors probably didn't make very much to do this then, no wonder they didn't even approach Cusack - they didn't want to insult him. That poor director is all I can think about...


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Yes, they never asked him to return. I can only assume that the producers didn't think he would bring more laughs to the movie overall, even though that would be ridiculous. Cusack has done many comedies in the past and has been very funny in them. It was kind of stupid not to bring him back. In any case, it looks like this movie bombed pretty back. I thought it was going to be pretty funny after watching the trailers, but I guess not. I'll watch it on Netflix when it comes out. I still want to see Jupiter Ascending and The Wedding Ringer.

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He probably watched the first movie and subsequently turned down all return requests in disgust.

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He actually wasn't even approached about doing this movie, and was surprised!

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As long as Rob Cordry is onboard, all will be fine! Can't wait for this.

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Yeah,..Cordry carried it.

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Yeah,..Cordry carried it. I always search the net with Louggle.

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Yeah it should be ok. I too like Cusack, but of late hes been making some really strange movie choices? And none of them seem to be really showing off his talents. Personally I think it would have done his career a little better if he had of signed on for this...

Regards

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I just don't get why they don't have Adam Scott play a new character. Recasting sucks.

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He is playing a new character! It's not a recast.

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He played the character's son from the future.

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Rob Cordry was pretty funny in the original.

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Rob Corddry was absolutely the best part of the original and the reason why I'm still looking forward to this but it just sucks that Cusack didn't come back. I liked the chemistry between them all in the first one.

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i don't think i saw all of the original film. but i did enjoy what i saw. as for Cusack i think what he's been trying to do in recent years is to to different kinds of roles. i read an interview a couple years back i forget where, where he

said that pretty much all the movies he's done is the same character and while that's all good, he wants to do different characters and different roles and i can understand that. which is why i think he has been doing films like playing Edgar Allen Poe. and though i haven't seen that one either. you gotta admit it's different. so that's why i think he's been branching out to do other roles.

i'm really surprised he didn't do this years ago! to be Quite Honest. and i do agree if you are going to have one of your big name actors leave the film series if you want to call it that now. than why recast it? just write a different character. it's like Revenge of the nerds. i remember after part 2 came out Anthony Edwards said he was done making them. or it may have been when Part 3 came out either way it was after Part 2 came out. and he only did part 2 cause he was talked into it and had them write in him breaking a leg. kinda like Charlten Heston only doing a small role in the planet of the apes sequel for example.

putting his own terms to the studio. anyways they recast the character and it was awful. they made him fat and the actors they got to play him made him even more of a nerd and a loser than he actually was in the 1st & 2nd film.

so that's why i say just rewrite the wrole to a different character. say he moved away or something i dunno.

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Cusack not coming back is a joke.


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I agree with most everyone here, it was Corddry's film all the way. Absolutely loved his impersonation of Vince Neil, I wonder how much the band was compensated for their musical involvement by the way. Perfect choice.

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I came back to say that I disagree with everything I said and this film is screwed without Cusack.

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Just curious, what made you change your tune? I loved Cusack in the first one and am skeptical of the sequel, but the rest of the cast is still really funny.

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I guess for two reasons.

1) Mere familiarity. There were four of them, and they were who they are. John Cusack offered the heart to balance the raunchiness of the rest of the cast. Whether Adam Scott can offer this too is irrelevant simply because he's just not Jon. Simply not having the SAME people means something significant for the dynamic of the films.

2) Star power. John has the legacy of a film star that Adam Scott and the rest of the cast does not have.


Also I have another reason why I think this film won't do as well and it's not related to the cast, but related to the theme. Countless people have expressed that they enjoyed the original film because of the 80's nostalgia throughout. With the sequel being set in the future, there is little room for that nostalgia charm to appeal to the audience. I find this interesting because I was born in 1990 and all my nostalgia fixes come from beyond the 80's, but I still loved the original. Just for the humour and the zaniness. I didn't even realize initially that nostalgia was a factor because I simply did not recognize those aspects of the film as being such. But I see now that many others did and that makes sense to me. But I do realize that I am likely part of a SMALL percentage who didn't need nostalgia to connect with the original film. I also do realize that because of this, maybe I might still enjoy the sequel. Guess I'll find out tomorrow when I go to see it!

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John Cusack is pure garbage. I'm glad he's not in this.

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