Vehicles still run, and there is gas to go in those vehicles. The furniture in the houses look like they were just bought from Ashley furniture. They have clothes on their backs, and plenty of it. Books survived quite nicely. They have computers, monitors, and other technological and electronic devices that were just bought from Best Buy, Circuit City or Tiger Direct. And what about all those medical supplies and equipment?
I assume Pilcher stockpiled gas, but eventually that'll run out unless they have some way of drilling and refining. Am I right?
And what about the vehicles, clothes, furniture, computers, and the like? Once those things are gone, they're gone. I can't imagine an infinite stockpile of that kind of stuff.
You forgot to mention the helicopter which they presumably used to clear out the Abbies in the early stages of resettlement. I don't remember it being a Lego helicopter. If they have a helicopter, why stop there? I would like to see a battalion of tanks and some artillery to keep the Abbies away.
At some point, they'll run out of ammunition and have firearms they can no longer make use of.
I think that's the problem they're encountering with drugs and medicine. They're running short and no way, as Megan Fisher pointed out, to replace that stuff.
Making ammo is not that hard, but they should be gathering spent casings for 1. They also should be investing in the equipment to make it most efficiently. Also, of the 2000 people in/out of stasis, someone should have familiarity of it at some level.
The ammo, drugs and medicine shortage clearly show they need to be training and educating all citizens, not just a select few. And shut down the toy store and other idiotic storefronts.
Not entirely true. Depends on how it's stored. Also, I've been using 3 year old gas in my lawn mower all summer. In the book they store most everything in a vacuum or moisture free envirnment. It's stated that they lose some materials and items but most of it is fairly intact. The town is rebuilt when they wake up.
And the earlier post is right, you have a problem with details in a show about suspended animation and zombies - sorry, wrong show, I meant abbies.
"And what about the vehicles, clothes, furniture, computers, and the like? Once those things are gone, they're gone. I can't imagine an infinite stockpile of that kind of stuff."
Bad writing and plot holes is how you explain all that.
Stockpiles of these things were stored. In the book Ethan estimates they had stored enough building materials to build the town three times over. They used the caves and some type of vacuum storage technology. Again, if you have a story about preserving human lives for 2000 years, is it really that much of a leap to think they could store a truck for the same amount of time?
I have seen that on TV. You put your vacuum cleaner in reverse, and they send you 20 plastic bags for $39.99, and you can vacuum seal anything and put it in storage for 2000 years.
The bags won't/don't last 20 years. We used some from a much superior product in the '80s and they had all "failed" 2010. It was a test on the performance. Even with a hard heat seal the bags are still porous.
MREs from Desert Storm have gone off. Although they have always tasted that way.
The thing with vacuum seainh is that it wants to pull air in
Best bet would be to vacuum seal the bag then put it in another bag filled with nitrogen at a little over atmospheric.
Bad writing and plot holes is how you explain all that.
I can't believe people still post this kind of things in 2016. I thought by now we learn only unimaginative Youtube reviewers uploading 'reviews' quickly without thought in pursuit of views and ad money openly say things like this.
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I'm guessing that no one posting to this thread has any knowledge of material science?
I realize this is just a fantasy story and sometimes, you just have to shut off that part of your brain that is screaming about the plot holes* in this story. But I felt compelled to correct the posts made in this thread.
FYI, virtually everything you see in the story would be absolutely impossible with present day materials and knowledge of preservation. Putting aside the cryogenics, lets go over what would/would not survive after 2000 years: - Cars: (everything but the bare metal would decompose). Wait, even the bare metal wouldn't survive (see below). - Gas: If stored cold and in a vacuum, stirred on a regular bases, stabilizers** added on a yearly basis... you might be able to extend the shelf life to about 50 years! Special note: Natural gas (and related) have an indefinite shelf life. Special note: It really doesn't matter because the electrical wiring and tires would have long since deteriorated. Therefore, no cars! - Computers: There are essential components within computers (such as capacitors) which won't last much longer than 200 years. The LCD screens, the plastics surrounding wiring and generally holding the computers together will also have deteriorated long before 2000 years. - Books: Have you ever seen a 2000 year old book? They are extremely fragile and yellowed - even low acid paper (which is not what common books use) won't survive 2000 years in perfect condition! - Clothing: I found it especially ridiculous that the personal affects of the abducted people were are fresh as the day they were abducted 2000 years ago. No known form of storage will maintain pristine condition of cotton, wool, or especially any synthetic fiber. - Medicines: Seriously? NONE are shelf stable for much past a few years. - Medical supplies: rubber tubes, etc. Would become hard and brittle after ten years. - Food: I cannot think of any food, besides honey, that will last 2000 years. - Animals: They must have had pods for cows and other animals? - Power: How did they maintain power for 2000 years? Nuclear fuel? Well, besides the fact that uranium fuel rods need to be replaced when the fissionable material is used up... about ten years! There is also the pesky problem of neutron embrittlement which will destroy the metal structures within about 100 years. Of course, there is the alternative RTG (Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generator) which some NASA missions have used. Two problems: a) They have a useful shelf life of only about 40 years... For instance, the Voyager space probe RTG's are now at about 48% capacity due to Pu radioactive decay (~ 0.79 % per year) and radioactive degradation of the bi-metallic thermocouples.
The only materials that are indefinitely stable are: glass, ceramics, porcelain, inert (non-reactive) metals like platinum and gold. Anything made of aluminum, iron, zinc, etc. are highly reactive and would not fair well over 2000 years. For materials that might be more stable in a vacuum, how would you maintain a vacuum for 2000 years without employing materials that would not survive 2000 years?
Like I said, it is just a fun little story not to be taken seriously. I just needed to correct some of the others who posted.
Shawn
* Plot holes go way beyond just materials! For instance, when the abbies begin amassing in the thousands, the leaders are concerned that they might find a weak spot in the wall. Really? I thought the abbies already demonstrated that they are willing to sacrifice themselves by building an abby pile and climbing straight over the wall. Did they forget about this fact?
** Unfortunately gasoline stabilizers also have a short shelf life... therefore, you are really only going to get about five years of shelf life for gasoline, unless you can synthesize new stabilizers every few years.
The only materials that are indefinitely stable are: glass, ceramics, porcelain, inert (non-reactive) metals like platinum and gold. Anything made of aluminum, iron, zinc, etc. are highly reactive and would not fair well over 2000 years.
Yay! The ceramic decorations my grandmother gave me will last forever!
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Damn, I hate posts like Shawns. He wants to post a college chemistry lecture explaining how unrealistic parts of a show are, when the central premise of the show involves the suspended animation of humans for two millennia.
Electric and/or battery-run vehicles, not gas - ? My only contribution to a conversation that could go on forever, with the numerous logic questions there are about this town. But hey, it's a TV show; we enjoy illogical escapism.
if the elements can't get to something then they can last a long time. petrol isn't that big of an issue, you can put a massive contained in a mountain that will last a long time when you don't really go anywhere. the biggest issue i'd have of this kind would be how and who built the town? and in 3 years? is that what half the thousand people were there that didn't seem to do anything of value, they were all construction workers? did they really have a stockpile of all the tar, concrete, wood, bricks, piping, wiring, furniture everything to build an entire town stored somewhere? they managed to build ll that but they didn't think to set up hydroponics facilities in the town to begin with so there would be massive agricultural systems already there when they woke up? no...they need a ice cream store and suburban houses....
My question is what type of power supply were they using that can last 2000 years without any maintenance, That is just not possible to believe.
Also Wouldn't everyone in town, know about the abbies, if piltcher had to build a massave fence that would take hundreds of people to build and have a team or spotters protecting them from the abbies wile building it.
When they did the reveal in S1, I immediately thought that it could only work that well if they had access to advanced nanotech assemblers - in other words, a level of technology so great they could have just as easily used it to reclaim the entire planet or to have prevented the collapse of civilization in the first place.