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Final act - much hard work for nothing and a mess of an ending


This film is very well crafted visually, and the music / atmosphere was a work of art, just like most del Toro movies...BUT the story ends in such a damn irritating and annoying way! What a waste. I don't want to list all the things i'm referring to because I don't like to make long bullet-point rants but i'll say this, which some may consider a rant anyway...

A movie sets up characters, which this one did reasonably well. You reach a point where you are pretty sure you have got to know them, how clever they are, how they might react to things, what they would do in certain situations. Then some movies ruin all that hard work (usually toward the final half or third - the "5h!t hits the fan" time) by making the characters do the most nonsensical, illogical and just plane stupid things, that anger you enough to completely pull you out of the movie. That's what happened to me in this one, and here's the one example (of many possible) I'll give.

The doctor guy busts in unexpectedly, knowing plenty about how effed-up and evil at least some of the two sibling's past life actions have been, and finds Edith close to death having just fallen from a huge height and generally in a terrible state anyway, obviously some bad things have happened at their hands, unsurprisingly. He knows by now that they are totally ruthless and capable of doing anything to get what they want. Instead of coming up with some intelligent way of talking his way out of the house with Edith (or just plane bolting out the door which would have probably been the best option short of just damn shooting them) he stands there accusing them of all the terrible things they have done etc etc and expects he can just turn his back on them and walk out and they are not going to do anything to him?!?!?!? Ridiculous!

How could he be so dumb? The answer plainly is that he would not be, he's a doctor for god's sake, he was smart enough to find out what he needed, and to get there and save Edith, and then he goes and does something as stupid as that. What would you have done if you were him at that point? Would you have expected them to just let you walk out? Would you have taken some kind of weapon in there with you? His options were obviously limited by the tough time he had to get there etc but would you have at least taken something with you to defend yourself, even if it was just a big stick? There were many other dumb character actions before and during that stabby-stabby-stab-fest at the end, but by that point it was too late, I was totally disconnected from the movie and really didn't give a crap what happened to any of them, which is the way i'm sure many viewers were feeling by that point.

Yes I know this movie was largely a romantic, gothic "fantasy", and I know ghosts don't exist, and I know there is such a thing as artistic license, but I always stand by the notion that a movie with well-formed characters must not then cheaply betray or insult it's own character's intelligence for the convenience of advancing the plot, what ever kind of story it is, and this did way, way too many times. A great shame as there was clearly much talent displayed in other areas, not least some of the actor's performances. This is dumb writing that should only be seen in cheap schlock horror, not artful intelligent movies as this otherwise partially succeeded in being.

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I couldn't agree more with you, rsheppard52, and what kills me are those defending the film in regards to the "romance". What Romance?? Thomas was a piece of garbage who was "in" on EVERY death, including her father's, yet we are supposed to be sympathetic towards him because he finally decides not to kill Edith?? And Edith still loved him after discovering the gruesome truth? GTFOH! Everything fails in the third act, I swear. Everything!


Who's strangling the cat?

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This. Thomas was guilty of killing three woman, whom he duped into becoming his wives, for money, went along with killing Edith's father, oh and he was slowly poisoning Edith herself for a while. How the thing that he liked Edith now more than those 3 women before her makes him suddenly a better person or excuses all other things? And don't forget that his solution was to live in some kind of threesome with both Edith and his crazy sister even after he decided he really loved Edith or w/e.
I mean is this romance? And Edith, the smart, independent, progressive Edith who the movie tried to set as character from the start still loves him after everything? Like WTF?

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How the thing that he liked Edith now more than those 3 women before her makes him suddenly a better person or excuses all other things?


YES!! Seriously!!

I mean is this romance? And Edith, the smart, independent, progressive Edith who the movie tried to set as character from the start still loves him after everything? Like WTF?


EXACTLY!!! I couldn't have said it better! This isn't romance in the least bit! Such an odd narrative for a movie!

Who's strangling the cat?

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Agreed - except the characters weren't 'well formed' to begin with, because as usual, Del Toro is more interested in visuals than people...






"Your mother puts license plates in your underwear? How do you sit?!"

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I know that this isn't exactly a positive post to begin with, but I'm amazed that no one has come to this movie's defence and literally every response agrees with you.

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well, what should he have done from the point he arrives to the house with no weapon?

its obvious he was there cause he found out about stuff and the girl was poisoned.. he kind of gave the siblings a chance to let them go and run away themselves after by making them know he knew about everything. they could assume he talked about what he found out to others so they wouldnt profit from killing them and wouldnt be able to make it look like some accident anyway.

either he pretty much makes it clear they are not going to get away with it and so it would be the more logical step for them to let him and the girl go cause trying to kill them could lead to getting injured and run away after.. or he could just start fighting them and hope he can take down both of them with no weapon. everyone knew everything at that point, all cards were on the table even if they pretended they were not, he couldnt have talk themselves out of the house anyway and he knew it. the siblings must have knew why he is there, he knew they are killers, it was just a bit play along they pretended the girl had an accident and he pretended he believed them but nobody believed shít, so ultimately it made no difference.

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Aye, a dolled up simpleton of a film. It reminds me of a Giallo, will be overrated and a "cult classic" in time, they ignore poor scripts and inexplicable characters as well.

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