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4th week numbers out

posted 5 years ago by fc31 (6147)
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Box office losses are slowing down in the 4th week, I think we will probably have a below $10 million week next week, then $3~4 million week and so on, eventually drop below $1 million per week.

Box office numbers:
TLJ: https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl2708702721/?ref_=bo_da_table_1
TROS: https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl3305145857/?ref_=bo_di_table_1

Total number of screens: TLJ (4,232), TROS (4,406)

Day| TLJ ********| TROS *******| TLJ Increase (% of last week) | TROS Increase (% of last week)
07 | $296,602,356 | $289,796,816 |
14 | $464,698,228 | $417,057,441 | $168,095,872 (56.6%) | $127,260,625 (43.9%)
21 | $548,962,602 | $463,110,690 | $84,264,374 (50.1%) | $46,053,249 (36.2%)
28 | $580,274,584 | $483,645,801 | $31,311,982 (37.2%) | $20,535,111 (44.6%)

Looks like the domestic box office of TROS is going to be around $500 million. Internationally at around $550 million. A total of just over a billion for the entire run.

Also bear in mind TLJ was on for 18 weeks, the number of screen dropped after 4th week. TROS might not last as long.

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Domestic 500 million, which Disney takes 65%, that is 325 million. Internationally about 550 million, which Disney takes 45%, that is 247.5 million, that is a total of 572.5 million. The movie costs about 200 million to make, plus about 250 million marketing cost, it still makes about 122.5 million.

A number quite impressive as a standalone movie but not as part of star wars franchise, which costs $4 billion. TFA made about 550 million, TLJ is around 150 million, this one around 125 million, Rogue One made about 130 million and Solo lost about 300 million, together about 655 million. That is another 3,445 million to go to turn a profit for the Disney investment.

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EDIT: Updated with 4th week numbers and estimates, and rough profit for each movie.

[–] Keelai (36177) 5 years ago

Good riddance! Watching it once was more than enough for fans who decided to see it. It looks like few multiple viewings.

[–] arflexit (2376) 5 years ago

With how disjointed, inconsistent and messy the entire trilogy has been; not to mention even if those that liked TFA (which I did not) could see that TLJ throw out anything even resembling a satisfying plot hole filling, it is a wonder that it is going to make as much as it is. Everyone had to know it was going to be one big mess. I guess that for many many people they will consume no matter what and do not really care what the story is. They are there only for the spectacle. And that is sad to me, story and characters just don't seem to matter to people. Shallow/soulless visuals is what sells.

[–] Keelai (36177) 5 years ago

"...story and characters just don't seem to matter to people. Shallow/soulless visuals is what sells."

Which is why I'll stick to the EU books which all about the story and characters.

[–] arflexit (2376) 5 years ago

Usually I like reading non-fiction; books on economics, history, and science. For my non-fiction entertainment I have relied mostly on film and video games since I was a teenager. I guess because of how bad video games and films seem to be becoming it is time to go back and start reading the EU books. I read some of those when I was real young, like maybe 7 to 10 years old but not since.

[–] Keelai (36177) 5 years ago

I read the same non-fiction books with politics thrown in. But, I enjoy fiction books, too. I never stopped reading the EU books. I only read the first book in the Thrawn trilogy. I have decided to continue to read them and the subsequent books. I consider them the true sequels to the OT.

TV shows have become really good. Even Mandalorian is good although not innovative.

[–] arflexit (2376) 5 years ago

I keep hearing good things about the Thrawn trilogy. I should read it. It will get the bad taste of the sequel trilogy out of my mouth I bet.

yeah Mandalorian is good albeit a bit uninspired and has not yet really 'soared' into its own yet. I only watched about the first half and was not blown away or anything, it was... fine. I heard the last 2 or 3 episodes it picks up more though. so when i get around to finishing it we will see.

[–] Goliard (1456) 5 years ago

Two pretty entertaining entries:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0345518594/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i0
https://www.amazon.com/Death-Troopers-Star-Wars-Legends/dp/0345520815/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=death+troopers&qid=1578794552&sr=8-1

[–] Keelai (36177) 5 years ago

Sounds interesting. Thanks.

[–] Keelai (36177) 5 years ago

I read the first book to remove the bad taste of Last Jedi. I just picked up the second book and will complete the trilogy before eventually moving on to the other books like The New Jedi Order.

Mandalorian is good fan fiction. Best thing about the show is Baby Yoda.

[–] arflexit (2376) 5 years ago

Eventually I hope to read it, but I don't know when or if I will have the time. My 'to read' list is already about a 100 books deep and I seem to never catch up.

Yeah that seems to be a good take on it; Mandalorian is fan fiction that is actually done well.

[–] Keelai (36177) 5 years ago

Same here re: book list. I can relate to that guy in the "Twilight Zone" episode, Time Enough at Last, who only wanted to read his books:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Enough_at_Last

[–] triplea (3577) 5 years ago

This is what a lot of losers on here don't understand.

While fans might see it once - people saying that "Disney will get your money because you will see it anyway so your opinion matters little." Don't seem to get that if it was any good, fans would still be seeing it every weekend for its entire run - massive repeat viewings instead of 1....

If the DT was seriously decent they could have rereleased 7&8 in cinemas again an I would have seen them prior to 9. Unfortunately it's actual trash.

[–] arflexit (2376) 5 years ago

I would not call them losers; despite the fact many of them argue in fallacious or just outright annoying ways (ignoring facts when convenient, straw-manning, ad hominems, attacking the OT to try to build up the ST, etc).

But yes, the entire point that me and those like me make is that; because it is Star Wars and is such an incredible strong IP it will make money. But just because they are 'profitable' overall does not mean disney has or will break even. By all available data they are a far way off from seeing an ROI. That should not be the case. As you point out, how many fans only saw it once in theaters instead of multiple viewings. when I in my early 20's I saw Revenge of the sith in theaters 7 times (ROTS was the only PT movie I enjoyed). Imagine how many times I would have seen the OT if I was old enough when they came out in theaters. Imagine how many times I would go and take my kids to the ST films if they had been good. It is like this for many people and many who did see it would not go back for a second viewing.

[–] triplea (3577) 5 years ago

An excellent point.

[–] fc31 (6147) 5 years ago

Updated with 3rd week numbers and estimates.

[–] Keelai (36177) 5 years ago

I paid about $24 for one movie ticket which is the equivalent of 2 or 3 moviegoers at a regular theater. I think some of that box office isn't about popularity, but over-inflated movie prices.

[–] fc31 (6147) 5 years ago

The number of screens dropped from 4,406 to 4,279 this Friday after 3 weeks, for TFA and TLJ that happened after 4 weeks. Showing further box office weakness.

[–] modica (4169) 5 years ago

Hard to believe that it is going to end up in worse shape than The Last Jedi. With all the bitching about that movie, the fan service ruined this one for sure.

[–] fc31 (6147) 5 years ago

I think it is because of TLJ. Most of the plot problems can be traced back to the fact Snoke was killed in TLJ.

[–] modica (4169) 5 years ago

I think that it's because this movie isn't good. Word of mouth killed this movie for sure. I think the Disney people are really kicking themselves right now. Now you blame TLJ, but I think it goes back even further. TFA was not a good Star Wars movie either. For me, it just didn't have it.

[–] fc31 (6147) 5 years ago

TFA was not a good movie but it was a box office success (which is what this post is about), TLJ is where it started failing and now the third movie is a complete mess due to too many plot problems, and the plot problems like I said before were mostly because of TLJ.

[–] TandyMan (11357) 5 years ago

TFA is definitely where the problems start. I don't give a fart how they decided to trash the early films. Whatever. But as a first film in a new trilogy, its only job was to set up the heroes, the villains, and define the objectives moving forward. And we never really got passed establishing the heroes. Totally directionless. They never even established the premise of why the story was happening at all. We the viewer were to rely upon our fore-knowledge of the saga.

[–] modica (4169) 5 years ago

Box office was good for TFA, because it was the first movie and critics seem to like it. The problem is that many longtime Star Wars fans did not care for it much. While watching it, I just kept thinking that this thing is really lacking so much of what the original trilogy had. I think that so much of it is because movies back then were constructed very differently than they are now. Movies now are all spectacle and little else.

[–] TandyMan (11357) 5 years ago

A good twist at the end of TLJ, assuming they were gonna go with this Snoke clone idea, would have been Snoke showing up to face Kylo at the end of TLJ. "Surprise MOFO!"

[–] FilmBuff (7438) 5 years ago

So more or less spot on with what was anticipated after the release of The Force Awakens, and right in line with what one expects from part 3 of a trilogy. I recall crunching the numbers back in early 2016, around the time The Force Awakens was winding down its box office domination, and trying to guess how the next two films would perform based on how the original three films fared. A global total of $1.125 billion was the best-case scenario, while a slightly lower total was expected due to how off-the-charts the success was for Part 7. Looks like Rise of Skywalker's total in comparison to The Force Awakens is going to end up right on par with Return of the Jedi's box office in comparison to Star Wars. Almost uncanny how well the films box offices have mirrored each other.

[–] kuku (3510) 5 years ago

Not really. RotJ made about 75% of the original A New Hope box office, while RotS is gonna make about 50% of Force Awakens. To mirror it, RotS should make about half a billion more.

[–] FilmBuff (7438) 5 years ago

Star Wars earned $775 million, Return of the Judy made $475 million, which is 53% of the Star Wars box office.

[–] kuku (3510) 5 years ago

You're counting special edition releases. In the original release, in 1977 and 1983, it was 374 vs 503, a 75%.

[–] FilmBuff (7438) 5 years ago

I'm just going with what Star Wars made compared to what Return of the Jedi made. If anything, including all the releases makes it more accurate, not to mention helps take into account the staggering success of part 7. You knew from the get-go that parts 8 and 9 could never match the success of part 7, not only because part 1 of a trilogy always does better, but because when part 1 is the highest-grossing film of all time by a wide margin that all numbers will be skewed.

In any event, by any measure Rise of Skywalker has been a massive success, and I look forward to seeing what's next in the Star Wars universe.