Why is it such a crime to like this movie?

JJ Abrams accuses fans of being bigots if they don't like the movie

maul, i completely agree with you.

i agree with the vindictive tone as well. why? because i'm tired of seeing people like the OP stick up for shit movies in this way. like, really? you couldn't be bothered to skim the boards for thirty seconds and find why people are sick of this shit? they insult those with justifiable criticism, and they use shitty reasoning. it's a fairly sophisticated form of trolling, of abuse.

we've seen this stupid shit play out over and over again too. Ghostbusters 2016. "It" 2017. The Dark Tower. Kubo and the Two Strings (it had an atrociously bad story). All offensively uninspired fucking hack jobs, yet we keep seeing people defend them in this way, with this convoluted logic that never adds up to anything substantial.

Wow, nice completely bullshit generalization. I guess you missed all the Youtube videos - doesn't matter the age, gender, or race... people from all walks of life despise this movie and want a change. Ignorant fool.

grindovermatter Basically my generation lol. I notice it's mainly the younger crowd that hates this movie which I find very odd. Go on youtube and you'll see what I mean. I guess I was raised differently because I was never coddled or had everything given to me out of "fairness", if you have that kind of mindset then you will never survive this world on your own.

That's quite an impressive amount of wrong there for only 3 sentences.

These are movies that are purpose built for the participation trophy generation. A key theme from the OT was that if you want to be good at something you have to work very hard for it whereas now they've built the entire trilogy around a character that can do anything she wants with zero effort.

People then take issue with this shoddy writing and for that they get called - by people unable to tolerate any descent - racists/sexists/misogyphobes etc etc.

MIchiganJFrogg Ok, than just ignore the new trilogy and don't count them as cannon. In the end it's all just fiction anyways and you can do what you want with it, it's not a documentary or real life. You can still like the OT, the originals are not ruined at all. They'll always be the same damn films no matter what comes after it, it's all subjective. You don't have to count these new ones as cannon, it's not like you have to or being made to at gunpoint. They're just movies, dude. I don't count Halloween Resurrection as cannon after H2O because that movie is bullshit and gives a pretty ridiculous reason to why Michael is still alive lol. Also, it was just made for a quick buck. Fiction is all subjective, you can do whatever you want with it because it doesn't follow actual events or facts. Just follow the SW EU because I've heard it's much better anyways, I do the same thing with the Alien EU since Alien 3 pissed on everything after Aliens. Who says you have to follow the inferior later films?

So every film needs to be absolute perfection, or it sucks?

I do agree Luke was an asshole in this, can't get around that! That alien titty milk scene.....LOL.

Yeah I saw a lot of that with TFA too.

One of the interesting things about human nature is that our emotional response to something is quicker than our cerebral side. People watch a Star Wars film and when the fanfare kicks in and the scrawl begins they're transported back to all those happy memories and objectivity goes out of the window. Later, when trying to rationalise the film they're faced with the issue that what happened on screen doesn't really match with what they told themselves they saw. Some people just accept this but other are forced to create a fantasy version of reality where the film is deserving of the emotions it created, leading to quotes just like the one you mention "I didn't like X,Y,Z but thought it was great!". Yeah, well, if you ignore everything bad about a film chances are it will be great but great films shouldn't need the audience to do that.

It's also why they get so angry in its defence; it's not really 'us' they're trying to convince, it's themselves. How else do you end up with bizarre logic like "Rey isn't a Mary Sue, Rey is just like Luke, Luke is a Mary Sue" etc etc.

I would never call this film utter perfection(it's not, neither was ep.7.....I don't think ROTJ was perfect either honestly) but definitely not a bad film either. It's not for everyone, that's the main problem with it.

The massive hypocrisy of this person, and others who act like him here, is amusing.

You really didn't read what he said at all, did you?

He's not taking issue with people who dislike or even hate the film. That's their opinion and they're entitled to it.

What he IS taking issue with is people who hate the film and toss insults at anyone who doesn't (and vice versa), as if their opinion is fact and anyone who disagrees is either an idiot or a shill. It's textbook narcissism, and the fact that this attitude is so prevalent on the internet is scary.

mitzibishi Show me one sentence where I'm trying to tear anyone down, I don't think you read my comments very carefully at all. I'm not ranting on people who disliked the movie, I'm pointing out the ridiculousness of these psychotic fanboys who go on the internet and talk shit to people who do like the movie and think their opinion is fact and is written in stone when it's not......it's JUST AN OPINION. What part of that do you not understand? Read my comments again, you're obviously not getting it lol.

"People criticizing something you like is scary to you?"

SMH.....no, being a complete asshole to people you don't even fucking know and insulting/threatening them over a fictional movie relentlessly is scary. It shows me you're 3 cans short of a six pack and need help because you're that obsessed over a movie and a person's opinion of it. Way too many people are doing that over the internet nowadays. It's fucking psychotic and narcissistic......yeah, I think that's scary lol!

Lol are you for real wanna be comunist?
Yes send those that don't like the movie to the gulags.
You seem to care a lot about those that voice their opinion against something you like. If you are not trying to destroy them why are you asking for them to be punished.
If I say to you that you need to be sent to do some force labour because you like the movie, and then say a I am not trying to destroy you, would you belive me?