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Finn suggests that Rey may actually be the "best pilot in the galaxy", which we can totally get behind

posted 7 years ago by Rorikon (18391)
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http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/star-wars/news/a854948/star-wars-last-jedi-what-happened-next-after/

MARY SUE!! No training required.

At least Skywalker had prior training in Beggar's Canyon bulls eyeing womp rats on his T-16 Skyhopper. All we know of Rey is she just scavenges for parts to sell with her trusty staff and custom speeder. She is a good tinkerer though but that's about it.

[–] Frogarama (12942) 7 years ago

She is a trained pilot, that is canon.

Basic sexism.

Luke says he's a pilot, you accept that, and he gets invited to hop in an xwing to battle the Death Star by people who have never seen him fly anything.

Rey says she's a pilot, and dont accept it. You call her a Mary Sue instead.

Again, basic sexism. Men are capable unquestionably, while women are not.

Even worse, they're both fictional made up people.

[–] Keelai (36157) 7 years ago

I read two novels that mentioned Rey's piloting which both contradicted each other. The first said she trained on only a flight simulator, the second said she had flew a few ships which is why she knew a bit about scavenging them. Disney appears unconcerned with continuity.

I was defending Rey wholeheartedly from being a Mary Sue after Force Awakens release, but Johnson turned her into one by not giving us any credible answers as to why she is so skilled using the Force and lightsaber and now she's supposed to be the best pilot in the galaxy, too.

I'm also offended that Chewie doesn't get to keep the ship of his best friend going back decades instead of Rey who knew Han for a day.

This time it's not sexism (even though I admit that there's plenty within the SW fanbase), it's horrible writing.

BTW, I didn't buy into Luke being such a good military pilot from flying a consumer craft either, but at least there was an attempt to explain it. Rey's parents are nobody is no explanation.

[–] Rorikon (18391) 7 years ago

Of course people have seen him fly 'anything'. His friend, Biggs Darklighter, who also flew in an X-wing flew with him. Controls on the X-wing are also similar to the Skyhopper and are both made by Incom. Nothing to do with this sexism crap or if Rey was black, you'd probably say it was racist.

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There is no continuity. Just straight on massacring the old to replace with the new. Like you said, Chewie doesn't get to keep the Falcon and Luke didn't get to see his best friend die at the hands of his own son but hey, Rey gets all of that.

Also, when did Rey become a skilled pilot? Was it ever mentioned in the films or was it some fill in the inbetween novel between the FW and TLJ?

Update: Oh I see, everything before Disney diversity makeover became non-canon except the theatrical films and Clone Wars animated series. Then a so-called canon short novel 'Before the Awakening' says she scavenged some flight sim data chip, then has some practical experience flying a ship that she rebuild in the desert, and finds out that she's pretty good at it. Funny way to discredit previous novels as non-canon then make their own as canon.

It takes skill to fly in the narrow and dangerously rocky Beggar's Canyon while bulls eyeing what is essentially a quick and agile 2 meter long rats. In any case, imo, training in a flight sim is wholeheartedly different than experiencing it in real life scenarios which Luke has more experience in.

[–] sut6432 (2928) 7 years ago

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBdnyrzq96s

[–] Oscar (114) 7 years ago

Luke says he's a pilot, you accept that, and he gets invited to hop in an xwing to battle the Death Star by people who have never seen him fly anything.

Rey says she's a pilot, and dont accept it. You call her a Mary Sue instead.

Again, basic sexism. Men are capable unquestionably, while women are not.

Even worse, they're both fictional made up people.

Luke doesn't just "say" he's a pilot, he has his landspeeder, and would much around with Biggs targeting Womp Rats. So Biggs had seen him flying something.

The first time Rey mentions flying is when she steals the Falcon,and can magically fly it without a copilot.

[–] Keelai (36157) 7 years ago

Rey is an impoverished scavenger.

BTW, where did she learn to swim so well on a desert planet?

[–] xoxo (160) 7 years ago

"Basic sexism"

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[–] Quint (959) 7 years ago

Rey never was a trained pilot at all. There wasnt a single line mentioned at the movies and I dont give a sh*t about a post released novel which tries to fix that bug. She is just a Mary Sue. And even one of the worst ever played.

[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

Rey is starving but has a working imperial simulator... Riiiiiight.

What you call 'canon' is actually a desperate retcon because someone clearly pointed out all of the bs holes in Mary Sue's story, and she IS *the* Mary Sue.

It's laughable that frog thinks throwing the 'waaaaaa sexist' remark carries any weight after using it for the past 3 years in every post. It's been proven over and over that criticism is not sexism and people are no longer 'socially intimidated' by sjw mud slinging remarks.

Pathetic.

[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

The irony is that frog is by far the most sexist poster on these forums.

It is established several times that Luke is a capable pilot and we ACTUALLY SEE Luke's ship in the film.

Even the he isn't allowed to touch the Falcon.

Also really regarding the X-Wing? They are literally minutes away from being destroyed and NEED every pilot they can get. He doesn't lead the charge, there are multiple attack runs beforenhim since he is just for support and then he gets saved by Han anyway and needs help from BEYOND THR GRAVE to succeed.

Rey just says she "We've got one!" Referring to herself as a pilot. She then has a tiny amount of trouble and then is literally UNBELIEVABLE in piloting and fixing the falcon. It's hardly believable and it has ZERO to do with gender, just pure wish fulfilment = Mary Sue HAHAHAHAHA

FROG JUST GOT TRIGGERED AGAIN!

[–] Quint (959) 7 years ago

Its astouning how much some movie viewers really ignore the fact that Rey is by far the most stupid and obviously reated Mary Sue of all times. This destroys almost every other woman main act in other movies, cause it takes away all the reputation.