It shows a child casually using a Force-pull on a broom... To move the broom four inches into his hand... With no training!
I thought this wasn't allowed in Star Wars? What if he becomes more powerful than Luke? Oh wait... He. Yeah, it was a boy.
Therefore, it will never become an issue. My bad.
There is workplace violence against men, needless deaths caused by poor choices in leadership and animal enslavement is bad messages on display by this film.
If it were meat eating men doing these actions it would be scorned Spanners, but wymon - they're indestructible and flawless as we all know every day from the Mary Sue's published stories.
The Mary Sue designation is typically applied to a main character.
I enjoyed TLJ, but I don't like how Disney seems to think anyone can use the force. The Jedi were inspired by the samurai, and no one could be a samurai warrior without rigorous training, no matter how inherently talented they were. Disney has taken a big poo on that notion.
Because this flick has real elements to dislike? It's way cooler to be in the minority hating on what the brainless masses will blah blah blah blah...seriously though...they were caught off guard...they were expecting something that was good that they could shit on to get folks riled..only thing is...it isn't good and the ones they were looking to piss off are actually agreeing with them...
shareHa, yes indeed.
shareWon't that kid turn up to Rey's inevitable training temple in a few years - wasn't that a potential initimation behind him celebrating the Resistance victory on Crait and starring at the stars in the night sky?
shareBecause pulling a broom from four inches away and suddenly learning mind control, blocking mind control, force pulling a lightsaber when another is trying to and defeating a trained warrior are two different levels.
shareAnd Luke was an entirely different level from every Jedi before him, but yet the Rey bashers can't accept that he is clearly a Gary Stu. Luke defeated Vader without ever getting any fight training, even though Vader had been using a lightsaber longer than Luke had been alive. Luke trained for basically three days with Yoda, and trained on only a few techniques, mostly telekinesis and exercising. His training with Kenobi was literally just minutes, and Luke was able to see without his eyes with nothing more than Kenobi's encouragement.
Luke was too old to train, he went against the entire history of the Jedi, he went against the concept of training, he went against the master and apprentice relationship, he developed his Force powers in a miraculous way and yet somehow became a super powerful Jedi.
The "Gary Stu" or "Mary Sue" concept of ditching all standards and having miraculous development is firmly embedded as Star Wars lore.
But here's the REAL question: If Luke can exceed so many that came before him, what EXACTLY would be "wrong" with Rey exceeding Luke?
I actually liked Rey in TFA, but I do have a problem with her in TLJ.
The whole Luke being a Gary Stu is not exactly correct in my vision of the story. In the original trilogy we do find out early on that Luke is the son of a Jedi. The jedi are strong with the force which seems to hold a religious and mystic quality which is strong in his family. I see Luke as the offspring of the supposed greatest force user, therefore, he is also a great force user.
During TFA, from what is hinted at, Rey may have had training as a jedi, or even better, is the offspring of a jedi. I liked this idea and my mind didn't deviate from expecting this in the future installments.
Then in TLJ, Kylo says her parents are nobodies and she hasn't had training since Luke doesn't seem to know her. This goes against my and I assume other people's vision of Luke and Rey'abilities. I just don't like it.
I hope that JJ Abrams can "fix" this aspect of TLJ, maybe Kylo is lying.
This is just one of many issues I had with TLJ and probably the most minor one cause I'm still holding out hope for a better interpretation in IX.
Even if Luke exceeded so many that came before him, in the Star Wars timeline it took Luke 4 years to go from being a nobody to becoming a Jedi. Rey only took a couple of days to get all of her powers. it has nothing to do with her being female or male(although some people are really pissed of about that).
In the end, its Star Wars, and it is not a franchise known from being very consistent from film to film in terms of powers and story elements.
Oh, I'm sure they'll get to it, they'll start complaining that Rey has become a Jedi with two days of traning with a Master, forgetting that Luke spent what, two days on Dagobah?
Of course Rey undercut the usual "Mary Sue" arguments by showing attraction to the Dark Side and making a damn fool of herself over a man. I can't be the only once who moaned "Oh honey" when she announced that she could see the good in a bad man and she was just SURE she could change him, just like every foolish real-world woman who ever ignored all the red flags! But I'm sure they'll find a way to call that part of the standard Sue narrative, it took them a while to get their version of the story straight after TFA came out after all.
They'll never reconcile themselves to a female Jedi protagonist in a Star Wars story. It's a purely emotional response, but they'll convince themselves they're being totally logical, if nobody else.
We are. It's just another stupidity. I think it's quite obvious these movies are raping SW lore.
shareBecause he only moved a broom two inches to the palm of his hand and seemed to do it without realizing it? If he started doing mind tricks or spinning around with a lightsaber, it would be a different matter.
It's no different than Luke or Anakin simply being good pilots before being trained. Or Leia knowing Luke was alive after Deathstar II was blown or what her mother looked like despite being a newborn. When people are Force sensitive, they can usually pull off some minor tricks that may not be fully realized.
BTW, I liked Rey in Last Jedi as she shed a lot of what made her a Mary Sue.