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Why 'Maron' and 'Louie' miss the mark


Both of them are, at heart, stand-up comics. They're neither trained actors nor comics who have had the benefit of small, easy TV and film roles to make them more comfortable in front of a camera. In other words, they're both self-consciously pretending to be themselves in an artificial, stylized context.

Louis CK's best jokes are all about how sad, miserable and pathetic his own life is. The humor comes from his own awareness of such--hearing him tell the story of a particular awkward moment in which he was humiliated is gratifying because his telling of the story is perfect, just as we would expect from a journeyman stand-up like him.

The same goes for Maron, another brilliant stand-up comic who can make killer jokes out of his own sad, miserable life. Every time he weaves a tale of another relationship that went awry, we not only feel for him but want to laugh because he's aware of what an ass he was and how the entire situation was absurd to begin with.

When this is translated into a TV show, which has its own literal, two-dimensional conventions of storytelling, the magic of humor is lost. The subjective voice of the comic gives way to the tyranny of the image--all we can literally see is the sad, prosaic situation the character is in. We're robbed of his authorial voice to put it into a tragicomic context, to show it from an outside perspective in order to collectively mine some greater, funnier truth from what would otherwise be just a brown heap of life dumped in front of us.

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Standing on the shoulders of giants doesn't make you tall.

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People who live in glass houses are mightier than the sword. Okay, your turn.

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I think this kinda show like "Louie" appeals to a certain demo.

I think 99% of the sh-t on tv is total trash. Like "Portlandia".

I was surprised at this show -- its actually funny at times. Maron's not, but the weirdos and idiots on his show can be -- but funny because you can't believe vapid people like that really exist.

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Your argument is similar to those about how stage plays (or novels) don't translate to film. Yes, it's a different media, so the form effects the content, but the content (and delivery) of Louie & Maron is very good.

I think Season 4 of Louie was great, very different feel than Season 1, as he evolves the show. I also really like Maron and hope there's more seasons.

Louie & Maron are oases in the sea of TV crap. I wish them both well and hope for more.

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