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Why The Force Awakens was the fatal blow to Star Wars


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In the world of Reddit, Youtube, etc. the Last Jedi generally takes the core of the blame for killing Star Wars. And while the Last Jedi is in fact quite a bad movie in a wide variety of ways (it fails as the middle film of a trilogy, it destroys the internal logic of Star Wars space-travel and space-combat, etc etc etc...) I'm here to argue that from a storytelling perspective, the Force Awakens is THE core fatal blow to Star Wars. It is not a contributor to killing the Star Wars story - it killed it, straight up. And it's a fatal blow that can't be fixed by events after the trilogy films or by adding additional events between Return of the Jedi and the Sequels.

On a superficial level, it might seem strange that the Force Awakens is the fatal blow. At least on initial viewing, and especially if viewed in a vacuum, it is probably the most fun film of the sequels. More than the other sequels, especially in its first half, it nails, superficially, the aesthetic of Star Wars. And, largely due to the fact that it just lifts most of its core plot from A New Hope, it is the only film of the Disney trilogy that sort of works as a standalone film; with it having a beginning, middle and end to its story. It's the only Disney trilogy film that you could show to someone in a total vacuum and have it mean something to them. Given all that, given that I'm making a strong case here for it being the best of the Disney trilogy films, it might seem odd that it is also the worst film - but it is.

The thing that makes Force Awakens fatal is baked into its soul, it is the very thesis of the film. The thesis is that everyone in the original trilogy failed. Everyone in the original trilogy is some combination of a failure or a straight-up loser, and to the degree that they had any positive influence on the universe, it was fleeting and quickly and totally undone. "Undone" does not even fully encapsulate the totality of the failure, as the catastrophes that take place during the Force Awakens are in fact far worse than anything that happened during the Empire's reign. In short, the efforts of the heroes during the first trilogy are rendered at best meaningless, or at worst a sort of naive false victory that actively planted the seeds of an even worse future.

And yet this is actually only the first half of the killing blow. The second half is illuminated by the term Disney eventually started using to sell their trilogy - the "Skywalker Saga." This name sounds like a romantic & nostalgic enough marketing term, but giving it any thought sheds light on why the Force Awakens is so fatal to Star Wars overall story.

Before the sequels came out, Star Wars ALREADY HAD a trilogy about heroes whose efforts all came to nothing, whose efforts at heroics actually ended up making the universe a worse place. This is the prequel trilogy. Putting the quality of the sequel films aside, this overall story arch only works because the original trilogy exists as redemption. The original trilogy exists to tell the audience that sons (and daughters) do not need to be or inherit the sins of their fathers, that redemption from failure is possible. To tell us that family is not destiny, etc.

Except that the Force Awakens inverts this. The existence of the Force Awakens turns the original trilogy into a second prequel story - and I don't mean just literally, I mean thematically. It creates a situation where BOTH THE FIRST AND SECOND Star Wars trilogy are about people trying to make the galaxy a better place, failing disastrously, falling to their own sins and vices, and then relying on a new generation to find some sort of (apparently very fleeting) redemption.

So this brings us back to the marketing term, "The Skywalker Saga." As noted earlier, this term is supposed to evoke, romance, nostalgia, and evoke the potential viewer's general goodwill for "the Skywalker family." In a world filled with evil, we need someone to trust, and who can you trust if not the heroic Skywalkers?.......Except, the Force Awakens clearly and irrevocably turn the Skywalker family into a net-negative for the Galaxy. The Force Awakens turns the Skywalker family into a horrible raging, narcissistic menace that have been unleashed upon the Galaxy, and everyone everywhere would be better off if none of them had ever existed.

Before the Force Awakens the story of the Skywalker family was of a young, troubled man who fell to his demons and took part in horrible crimes against the world...and his humble son's (& daughter, in a different way) quest to save the world from his father while at the same time refusing to ever give up hope of redeeming his father... cont'd

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After the Force Awakens, the story of the Skywalker family is this: It's the story of a young man who falls prey to his demons and unleashes hell upon the galaxy. Then his son puts a stop to his father's horrors and redeems his soul. Then the daughter gives birth to a new troubled man who kills HIS own father and unleashes an even greater, more apocalyptic hell upon the galaxy just a few decades later. The Skywalker family is responsible for billions upon untold billions of deaths, and the only thing the "heroic" members of the Skywalker family managed to do was...put those horrors on pause for a few decades while they gave birth to and raised the next demon to terrorize the galaxy. It's a family cursed with horrible powers & demons that they can't control & occasionally the Galaxy gets a respite from their terror. This is the exact inverse of George Lucas's original thematic intent with the original trilogy. It's not hopeful, its worse than dystopian, it's like some sort of existential Lovecraftian horror.

Given this, Star Wars has only two possible directions to go after the events of Force Awakens:

Option A is the route that the Last Jedi attempted to take. I won't argue that it took this route well, the Last Jedi is disastrous for Star Wars in some unique ways of its own. But I feel this is pretty clearly the route it attempted to take. This is the route of attempting to acknowledge everything that is laid out above, to confront and come to terms with the failure, the horrors, the existential terror. It's a valid route for "a film" or even "a franchise" to take - but there is a major problem with it - it isn't really George Lucas's Star Wars. It isn't a hopeful universe, it's a terrible, horror-filled universe where the best we can hope for is to eke out small victories now and then in the midst of all the horror and suffering. There is no redemption, there is only small windows where our own demons are held at bay... cont'd

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Forget the Star Wars ring theory, this is the true nature of Star Wars:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prvm5ZFPIrE

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You could easily argue that this is a more realistic world than the one in George Lucas's Star Wars, it certainly has a place in Science-fiction - but again, it completely corrupts the original heart of Star Wars.

Option B is the Marvel-ization of Star Wars. This also rips out Star Wars original heart, but for different reasons. And this is the route the Rise of Skywalker (and a bunch of other Disney Star Wars) takes. It's a world that - if you care to critically analyze it - is the same as option A. It's a world of never-ending horrors and never-ending violence, and if you look at it a little too closely our heroes are actually just making the Galaxy a worse place most of the time, and usually their 'victories' just set the stage for even worse things to happen in the future. It's a world where even when somebody is a good guy, their son or daughter is guaranteed to be a menace to the universe...But it's also a world where nobody ever seems to notice all of this. It's a world of nonstop terror but the handful of heroes are having such a jolly good time "fighting evil" that they never have time to notice the thematic implications of their adventures. It's a world just gets worse and worse but there are plenty of funny quips along the way, so who cares?

So, anyhow, that's it. That why I think the Force Awakens killed Star Wars.

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Think you are more obsessed with TFA than me at this point , Star Wars hasn't been this popular so years and you can thank TFA for that , it rejuvenated the franchise, got people interested in star wars again , new and old fans. its one of the most successful films ever made.

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