Disney SHOULD have made this about Luke, Han, and Leia doing one last mission together while getting help along the way from Rey, Finn, and Poe to give the audience time to grow to like the new characters. Instead our beloved trio was pushed to the side and Disney told us "forget about them, our new characters are better, just consume, and don't complain." So stupid, Disney!
share10+ years too late. Would we really need to see the fast-paced adventures of old people?
Disney owns the rights, they could use all elements and show stories from within the galaxy far far away, do what nobody else can do. Show us that it's not all family business and selling merch - or if it's really about House Skywalker vs. House Palpatine, go a Game of Thrones in space route.
But all they did with it, was to plagiarize themselves (jj) and letting an egomaniac do his solo movie in the midst of a trilogy.
i think han and chewie should have been separated and doing there own thing, han with leia being a political guy or something and then when they return to the falcon it's because they haven't been living that life for a long, long time. this would make seeing them flying the falcon together again a great experience.
shareI disagree, I do think they were right to make new, young characters the center of the new trilogy.
I just wish they'd done a better job of it. I mean, I like all three, but I don't LOVE them the way I love Leia, Han, and Leia plus Han.
I don't like Rey, she's too perfect and comes across far too posh to be a scavenger.
I don't like Kylo, he's too emo and is fuck ugly.
I don't like Finn, he's too much of a fool to be taken seriously, AND he's a sanitation Stormtrooper.
If I had to choose a main character, it would be Poe, I find him the least offensive of the new main four.
I really like Rey, and I like Finn and Poe. I really wish they'd done more with Finn and Poe.
I LOATHE Darth Emo, and not in a love-to-hate him way. I want to see his tiny little old mother bitchslap the hell out of him and humiliate him so badly he'll never recover.
But she can't because she's dead Jim. Besides even though Adam Driver looks uncomfortably like Marilyn Manson he is a very good actor and Kylo Ren was an interesting and complex character ( as was Rey ) which is a hell of a lot more than you can say about the cardboard cut-outs of Luke, Leia and Han.
I agree, more or less. Kylo Ren is a fascinating, deep character, written far more completely than was Darth Vader. Darth Vader is a much more iconic villain, and he didn't *need* to be developed beyond "evil guy in all black who killed our hero's dad," but when it comes down to it, Driver was given a far meatier role, and he excelled in it. That his character elicits such diverse emotions and responses, and angers so many viewers, is a testimony to its power.
Rey too was much more deeply drawn than Luke, but, like Darth Vader, Luke didn't need to be any more. In 1977, there had never been a film remotely like Star Wars. It took the tropes of classic Westerns and gave audiences instantly recognizable archetypes. An innocent, inexperienced hero, dressed all in white, overmatched against a black-clad villain who is known and feared by all. Audiences didn't want to learn about Luke's emotions, or see him grow or develop. They wanted to see him shoot a bullseye to save the day just as John Wayne and Clint Eastwood had done before him. Movies in the 21st century are expected to be more realistic, longer, and give a deeper dive into the character's psyches, hence the complexity of Rey. And, like Kylo Ren, she garners a negative response from filmgoers who don't want to think, and would rather parrot nonsensical dismissals or her character's arc.
Well said. As I posted on the ' A New Hope ' board the original trilogy was made for 14 year olds and the prequels were made for 10 year olds but the sequels were made for adults.
I would not have been as interested in that as I was in the newer characters. Those original three had an entire trilogy that told their story, then a prequel trilogy that, granted, was terrible, but that told the story before their story. Enough's enough. Plus, they're far too old to be the stars in an action series. Hell, Carrie Fisher looked, and sounded, like death warmed over in this film, and died before the trilogy could be completed. So no thanks. If I want to relive the adventures of Luke Skywalker and Han Solo, I can rewatch Star Wars.
shareHow dare you bring logic and reason into this discussion ! Where is your humility towards the OT !?
LOL, you'll "hate" how I responded to you above. I saw your reply just after sending that post. But seriously, too many people can't see past their prejudices, politics, and nostalgia and acknowledge that different and complex can be good without denigrating great stories from the past.
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