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Were they planning a different Avengers 3?


The end of “Ultron” strongly implies they are showing the new version of the team for the next appearance of the Avengers. But then we never actually saw that team in action. If everything was all mapped out years in advance, why would they do that?

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That new assembled team was in Civil War. That movie is basically Avengers 2.5 & a continuation of this film

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I have seen it multiple times. I don’t recall them ever acting as a team in that configuration (including being without Tony, who made a big show of exiting at the end of “Ultron”) before the accords scrambled everything.

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As far as I know, They were only a team for like one mission. Unless some stuff happened offscreen.

With the exception of War Machine & Vision, They were together for the opening sequence of Civil War. In Lagos. When they were in pursuit of Crossbones.

That's it. They got broken up by the accords after that.

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There’s an implication they had a few missions together just like this movie opens with the implication they’ve taken down a few Hydra bases.

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Even if they didn't go on missions together, They've at least practiced together for a while

As Cap says to Wanda at one point in the film, "Just as we practiced". When she yeets him into the building.

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Yeah, and he said something about having intel on Crossbones. That implies they were tracking him down for a while. Keep in mind, we see Falcon guarding the Avengers base in Ant-Man as well, so they had to have been up to something in the meantime.

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I would've honestly loved to see more of that Avengers group. They seemed to be more in sync with each other than the regular Avengers team

Plus, I just love a "Black Ops Superhero team". Like Cap & BW in The Winter Soldier and the Young Justice team

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The “Secret Avengers” team of Cap, BW, Wanda, and Falcon showed up at the start of Infinity War. I thought they had that vibe. According to Fiege, that team was confirmed to have been fighting terrorists since Civil War.

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Oh man, wish we got to see some of THAT. Like a Marvel One Shot or something

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Thinking about it more, that team was shown saving Vision, then they took him to meet War Machine so we got at least one last scene with the second-gen Avengers.

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I love how well choreographed their ambush of the Black Order was. Cap, Falcon & BW worked so great off of each other

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It’s hardly the same team with two of the six members missing.

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Yes, everything in the Marvel universe IS mapped out years in advance.

And they do that because it takes years to develop a blockbuster "tentpole" movie like the big Marvel movie, and every single film or TV show was meant to have its place within the larger franchise story, and even films that seemed standalone. It's a huge effort and an amazingly successful one, and it's all very precise and yes, each and every one of the scripts have all been planned out for internal continuity and to advance the story of the Infinity Stones on Earth.

Now, with Phase 1 being wrapped up with the end of "Endgame" and the retirement of the Cap and Tony, they're planning out a new phase, and I think they're using the streaming show "Loki" as the springboard, to introduce the story of the Multiverse and Kang. Of course Disney wants to make "Loki" mandatory viewing for all Marvel fans and has spent big bucks on the show with the intent of making each and every Marvel fan play for Disney Plus Streaming, but it's also intended to start a new set of stories, with each superhero independently dealing with Multiverse issues before coming together as a new superhero team in a couple of movies that cost about a billion each.

So that seems to be the plan and it's a hell of an impressive plan, and I don't know if Marvel Films will be able to carry if off. Will the public tire of Superhero movies? Will some new franchise come along to become The Shit? Will the movie industry scale back or die, with the decline of movie theaters and the rise of streaming? Will COVID kill everyone dumb enough to go to a movie theater during a pandemic surge?

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MY DAUGHTER AND I ARE ALL IN ON THE MCU...I AM EVEN GONNA SIGN UP FOR DISNEY+ SOON...UGH...JUST FOR SAID MARVEL CONTENT.

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Disney Plus is the only streaming channel I pay for!

Because yeah, I'm all in on the Marvel franchise, and Star Wars as well, and plus the Disney animated films. What's six bucks a month, for the right to play the stupid Thor movies whenever i want?

So yeah, I love my dumb-fun movies, but I'm also very impressed by the way Marvel films has run their huge money train of a franchise. It's THE most monumentally ambitious project in the history of film.

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WE OWN EVERYTHING...THE VARIOUS MCU SERIES AND SOME OTHER HARD TO FIND OR NON EXISTANT ON PHYSICAL MEDIA PROGRAMS ARE THE ENTIRE DRAW FOR US...THAT'SPLENTY FOR THE PRICE...I JUSTHATE STREAMING SO HARD....PHYSICAL MEDIA FOREVER!


ON A SIDE NOTE...I HAVE LOVED ALL THE MCU HAS OFFERED THUS FAR...GOING FORWARD,HOW THEY HANDLE THE MUTANTS AND DEADPOOL IN PARTICULAR IS THE BIG HURDLE IN MY MIND.

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If I'd ever had a DVD player last longer than a year, I might share your love for physical media. But then, I learned my first lesson about planned obsolescence with the deliberate ruin of my VHS film library.

But yeah - I'm totally looking forward to more MCU product, definitely Deadpool 3, and the next outings from Doctor Strange and Thor, and the next season of "Loki"... and whatever else they come up with...

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I WATCH VHS ALL THE TIME...DVDS ARE GREATBUT BEST PLAYED IN A STRONG LIKE BULL,NO SKIPPING ALLOWED BLU RAY PLAYER.

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Stupidity.

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Because even superheroes' plans go awry?

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