Why are all the lemmings clamoring for Idris Elba to be the next Bond? - Spectre (2015) Discussion

[–] Mr_Spring 9 years ago

Bond should be played by the best actor available at the time regardless of the colour of their skin, the characteristics of bond dont require you to be white.

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[–] Umakemyheadswim 9 years ago

Bond should be played by the best actor available at the time regardless of the colour of their skin, the characteristics of bond dont require you to be white.

Bond is white and should be played by the best White actor available for the role.

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[–] paul-heyes 9 years ago

If changing his eye colour and hair colour hasn't bothered you, then why is changing his skin colour such a big deal?

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[–] HugeDaiCottermee 9 years ago

In that case why not have him played by an octopus?

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[–] paul-heyes 9 years ago

An octopus is a different species. Idris Elba is not. And that doesn't answer my question.

Also, I don't offhand know any octopuses that have the acting skills to do the role justice. The one who played Ursula in the Little Mermaid wasn't bad, but I don't think she'd fit.

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[–] RichardTheBruce 9 years ago

An octopus is a different species. Idris Elba is not.

Why, you specist!

I'm motivated by my Duty.

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[–] BigRich 9 years ago

He's 007. A fictional character that has been played as differently and as diverse as the actors that portrayed James Bond. I don't see you having a problem with changing the sex of M, or the color of Moneypenny.

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[–] Umakemyheadswim 9 years ago

He's 007. A fictional character that has been played as differently and as diverse as the actors that portrayed James Bond

All white males. 007 is a white male. Make your own 00 agent and make him black

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[–] paul-heyes 9 years ago

They;'ve changed his eye colour, hair colour, height, weight, age .... why are you so hung up on just one more superficial attribute being changed?

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[–] HugeDaiCottermee 9 years ago

If you can't figure this out for yourself then no one with brains who contributes to this message board can help you.I'm sure that plenty of those who are brainless will though and the most brainless of all will agree with you..

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[–] paul-heyes 9 years ago

I have my suspicions as to why people care so deeply about skin colour and not about eye colour or height. I just hope I'm wrong; I thought we'd left that kind of thinking behind in the 1800s.

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[–] HugeDaiCottermee 9 years ago

We already have Denzel Washington starring in this years THE POLITICALLY CORRECT SEVEN so leave Bond alone.

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[–] paul-heyes 9 years ago

And your complaint is that Denzel Washington isn't Japanese enough?

You still haven't answered the question I asked of the OP. If eye colour and hair colour don't matter, why does skin colour matter?

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[–] HugeDaiCottermee 9 years ago

No, I'm complaining that Denzel Washington isn't Yul Brynner enough. BTW , if you ever read any of Ian Fleming's Bond novels you will discover that Bond is white. I imagine that if another remake is made of THE ALAMO you would demand that Will Smith plays Davy Crockett, Don Cheadle plays Jim Bowie and Chiwetel Ejiofor plays William Travis and God help the director if he portrays Mexicans as the enemy.

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[–] paul-heyes 9 years ago

Yul Brynner wasn't Japanese either, so the film was already going against the original storyline. Casting Denzel Washington doesn't take it any further away.

And I'm not disputing that James Bond is described as having white skin. However, he's also described as having black hair - why aren't you objecting that Daniel Craig could not play the role? And blue-grey eyes - that'd rule out Sean Connery, wouldn't it?

Either you want a truly accurate casting or you don't. Which is it? Or is skin colour, for some reason, vastly more important to you then eye colour or hair colour?

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[–] Umakemyheadswim 9 years ago

why aren't you objecting that Daniel Craig could not play the role? And blue-grey eyes - that'd rule out Sean Connery, wouldn't it?

This is simply you grasping at straws. I'm not even a fan of Daniel Craig's James bond. But skin color is a much more extreme and noticeable aesthetic than hair color.

Bond is white. No matter how desperate you get to want a black man to take the role.

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[–] The_Centurion 9 years ago

In other news... John Shaft to be played by Tom Hanks.

Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave.

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[–] Damienracer 9 years ago

Frankly I don't care about colour but personality and good looks is a must for me you can be polka dotted or herbal green, but if you're as dull as turd like Daniel Craig then you might as well buy a tanning booth and stay there.

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[–] HugeDaiCottermee 9 years ago

These idiots worship at the PC altar and are inherently stupid.

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[–] Seoul_Seeker 9 years ago

I don't mind them changing it. Craig has only done two Bond films that were good and that was more due to his female co-stars than anything else (Olga Kurylenko, Quantum of Solace and Bérénice Marlohe in Skyfall. Once Bérénice was gone, it got pretty dreadful. This last one was underwhelming too, to say the least, Q being the only redeemable factor. The obvious green screen during the helicopter opening didn't help matters.

Bond will always be Moore, Connery and Brosnan, in that order. Mission: Impossible makes the new Bond films completely unnecessary. I'll wait for HBO or Showtime airings from now on I think.

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[–] samkaysam 8 years ago

Why do you guys always bring up Shaft being played by a white guy though? That's the worst example. Shaft being black is essential to his character, just like you can only have a white guy playing KKK. You can replace any number of other characters in any movie with any actor/actress of any race and not make any difference to the story you're trying to tell.

Maybe you could say that it would be jarring for the audience, maybe take them out of the movie. Perhaps a certain image of James Bond is so seared into audience memory that, permitting small variations, you can't really break from it without changing the essence of Bond. I have similar problem with the sour, emo Daniel Craig. Thought he was gonna be a great Bond after Casino Royale, but went too emo, distraught, humorless. Even got mocked by derpy hipster Q, who seemingly had info that could only be gained from having watched previous Bond movies.

No need to race troll.

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[–] TheOtherUprising 8 years ago

Its like one day someone trolling diversity suggested Idris Elba and all the Idiots took it seriously.

From what I remember the rumour about Elba as the next bond started as one of the bits of information on the Sony hack that revealed that he was being considered among other people.

From there those that demand that Bond must be white lost their minds that this was even a possibility. Despite the fact that Bond's race is unimportant.

But there was never a clamoring from the public that Elba be the next Bond, only that it was a consideration. Personally I think he would make a good Bond but whether that happens or it doesn't is not all that relevant to anything.

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[–] Jan_El_Senor 8 years ago

From what I remember the rumour about Elba as the next bond started as one of the bits of information on the Sony hack that revealed that he was being considered among other people.

It wasn't even that. It was an email where one specific person at Sony (who has no say in who is cast as Bond, that's exclusively up to Barbara Brocolli) mentioned that she personally would like to see Idris play Bond. He was never even being seriously considered by anyone.

Please stop.

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[–] paul-heyes 8 years ago

Barbara Broccoli is far too good a casting manager to have not been seriously considering him. She'd seriously consider any male actor of the right age who is any good. And as they've proven at least three times already - they don't care about casting someone who looks like James Bond was supposed to look in the books. They care about getting a (at least in her opinion, as in Cubby's when it was him) good actor.

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[–] Jan_El_Senor 8 years ago

Barbara Broccoli is far too good a casting manager to have not been seriously considering him. She'd seriously consider any male actor of the right age who is any good.

Idris is not the right age. He is far too old to take on the role now. There's no evidence he was ever considered for the part, and it doesn't make any sense that he would be.

Please stop.

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[–] osaji922 8 years ago

Is 43 years old the right age? That's what I never understood when it came to Elba. He's not the right age at all and guess what? It's 2016 now. Next year he'll be 44. It's time to put the Elba rumors to bed right now. He has no chance of being Bond. Maybe ten years ago.

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[–] TheSolarSailor 8 years ago

It's just political correctness run amok. People just HAVE to see a black man participate in every single established role, not because it is a good idea, but because they think they have to make some sort of statement. It's no different than taking a comic book character like Iceman from Xmen and turning him gay when he was never in all of these decades been gay before. And don't dare express a negative opinion, or else everyone starts screaming racism. This society has turned into a bunch of politically correct pu$$ies.

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