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Ugh, I hate the end with a PASSION!

posted 9 years ago by victoriamasina
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Massive spoiler alert! I'm on my phone and forgot how to hide it, so don't continue reading if you haven't seen the last episode of season 3 yet.
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I hate how the friendship between Peter and Roman ended - with the result of one dead and the other a beast for ever. Their friendship was one of the best things for me in this show.

I hate how everyone just freaking dies. OMG, there wasn't another solution? The death count of most major characters is just insane and upsetting. Their end doesn't leave me with a satisfied feeling at all.

I am happy for Shelly, if she is happy. But with a fugitive who's twice her age and a baby that might turn out dangerous? Yikes.

I could go on and on, but I'm exhausted from fuming over this horrible end. I hope this crap was just a dream. Or someone comes and turns back time. I think I have to create a satisfying end for this in my head just for piece of mind. There are possibly people out there who liked it as it is, but I'm sure the majority feels like I do. Unfortunately I have to wait till my friends finish watching it and I have nobody to bitch about it, hence my post. Now excuse me while I go into a corner crying...

[–] Phylum22 9 years ago

Quite simply

Shelley should have gotten a new body, Olivia should have died earlier, Nadia should have killed her kidnapper (Doctor). Roman, Peter, Destiny, Johann and Miranda should have lived

[–] victoriamasina 9 years ago

As much as I hate Olivia, I love Famke's acting and would miss her hehe... I would also miss Shelly - so I hoped Dr. Price (whose death I was surprisingly mourning) would make her a new one looking like her but shorter and without the monster features. :D I concur with all the other stuff.

[–] SamsRaven 9 years ago

The friendship was my favorite part of the show. I'm sad it ended that way.

[–] Floater44 9 years ago

Yea, the end was a big let down for me. I don't necessarily have a problem with characters dying, but the way most of it happened just felt rushed and lame. There was no emotional payoff, just oh, suddenly they're all dead.

Olivia dead without a final confrontation with Roman or Shelly and without facing the monster she really is. Roman dies pretty much without even talking to Peter, that whole scene just felt so rushed and anti climatic.. these 2 have struggled to survive this whole series and gone through some real *beep* together then suddenly Peter just decides to kill Roman without barely any emotion and Roman just kind of gives up. Felt like this season both characters were acting against their entire character development over the last 2 seasons.

Pryce death also just felt... pointless especially because the actor playing the guy who killed him was pretty shiet and that character was pretty lame. Miranda dies off screen, and no one seems to care. Spivak dies like a chump after all that build up, that whole scene was lame.

Shelly's relationship just did not feel authentic to me, the chemistry between the two, or lack there of, was just not believable in the least, it felt more like a weirdo uncle trying to teach life lessons to his niece than "romance". And then the last scene with the stupid evil manta ray just eyeroll worthy, I mean there's not even any Upir's that we care about left to feel bad for that that threat is still alive.

Just felt they were all killed off for the sake of shock value, without much love put into the story and the scenes of their deaths. Last season brought down the rating of the show a star for me.

[–] victoriamasina 9 years ago

Fully agree. Especially with the mass dying for shock value. Or maybe the writers were pissed that the show wasn't renewed (I can understand that, I'm not happy either) and thought f it, let 'em all die pretty much at once muahahahaha

[–] xdanikaax 9 years ago

Don't ever watch Game of Thrones then. Everybody dies! It's sooooo Shakespearean.
I thought the ending was brilliant if it's The End of the whole Hemlock Grove venture.

The Spivak death scene was super anticlimactic. And the end with the pond and the stingray thing at the end was definitely cliche'd, though, I agree.
Sad that Peter is now stuck in wolf form, but I knew he was gonna do it.

[–] victoriamasina 9 years ago

Hey, don't even compare this with GoT! I HAVE watched it and read the whole series as far as books and shows are out, and as much as I cry for the characters I don't whine about them dying because it made sense and was building up to it. And sheesh, Shakespearean? Shakespeare knew his craft and how to end a play.

[–] vicky_lc2001 (1907) 7 years ago

You're comparing this show to GOT? Lol.

[–] urthpainter 8 years ago

Very late to the thread, but just finished marathoning this show. third season is an odd duck - and clinic on bad storytelling within a created canonical (given norm). Everything was in place, the writers knew this was the last season going in, and this is the seasonal arc/series conclusion?!? Tragic indeed. Spoilers can certainly be drawn, so this really is for people who watched the show:

All the deaths are unforgivable, especially when many deaths were handled so well in the first 2 seasons. A character doesn't need to die for a conclusion! Death is just a shortcut, cheapskate, lazy way out for writers who may have had one foot already out the door because they knew this series was ending - you know... to that point, their awful work during the last season may have been intentional sabotage in spite of the producers who cut off their project, funding, and livelihood.

Roman: why does he never use his power of suggestion in season 3? If Roman is evil, why put him on an earlier path of redemption? What was the point of the battle ax ceremony? The battle ax is still present in season 3, but an explanation of the flame and mirror? No such luck.

Peter: If Peter waits until the next full moon to attack Roman at the end (and he's healed up), why is he cursed to always be a wolf? If this is explained clearly, I missed it.

Olivia, Roman, Pryce & Destiny = very poor conceived exits from the show. All of which deserved far more finesse and respect. Same with Annie, but as a viewer I wasn't as attached to her character, but her lack of fight at the end made absolutely no sense. The way they ended Pryce too... just so bad.

The whole crime/boyfriend arc of season 3 is pointless, and had absolutely no place in this show.

At the end of season 1, there are two absolutely horrific events. The emotional impact of these events actually made me pause before watching season 2, but now... looking back - that was great horror genre stuff! And what happened! Even the stuff that happens at the end of season 2 is campy schlock compared to the season 1 final. And season 3? It's like the writers forgot what they had created (or perhaps all the good writers from the first two season were already gone, I really don't know).

But yea - kinda like what Olivia says after she throws a corpse in the dumpster, "We could have been happy. Why did you have to *beep* it all up?"

[–] tenant13 8 years ago

Also late to this thread and also just marathoning this. I just scanned through this whole thread and noticed that nobody mentioned Annie. I suppose for obvious reasons: a useless, unlikable an unmemorable character who shouldn't have been written into the show in the first place. I wish I could say there was one thing I liked about the ending - or season 3 actually - but I can't. R.I.P Hemlock Grove...

[–] miss-sussex 8 years ago

I like how Pryce kinda redeemed himself. I liked the Annie and Roman dynamic . It was hot. Olivia plot kinda made me sad. You can see they try to shift her from a good character to a bad one and finally bad only to be holding her dead daughter which made me wonder if she finally changed. Peters story was pretty bad and for destiny to go out like that was lame to say the lease. She was a full blown psychic so how come they could make her figure out what happen...I don't know. The wasted plot in this show (more than the others I mean) was the Vampire Cancer. Their was so much potential. I couldn't stand creepy string ray doctor. Yes he was funny but he was another plot line that should have stopped an episode or 2 in.

My season 3 wish would have been:
ideally I would have had annie as a scientist of some sort who was tracking the vampire cancer. She carries on an incestuous relationship with roman which results in her pregnancy . She and doctor pryce come up with a substance to kill creepy doctor. They (annie, roman , peter) end up getting Nadia back . Recent Murder in hemlock grove would have put the city in the spot light for its supernatural attacks.I would have had the Spanish guy be an investigator who falls in love with Olivia who is also infected by the cancer. Olivia changes because the love of her daughter annie and the Spanish guy and dies. Shelly realize that supernatural events in town are caused by the people she loves. Peter and his family screw over a clan of gypsys who are turn into cancerous vampires by Roman . Roman goes dark side and finds out he is the reason for the vamp cancer .He also finds peter keeps dragging him into *beep* he does not want to be in that jeopardize his power Roman becomes a uber vampire. Destiny is terrorized by the vamps and eventually killed. Peter finds out roman created the vampires that killed his cousin so he comes after roman . they have a knock out drag out battle in which it leaves both of them dead. last scene we see is shelly with her sister annie and nadia to become a real family in Europe. They give the company to dr pryce and he secretly creates another body or shelly The end

[–] writetopcat 8 years ago

I binge watched the show on Netflix. I agree with much of what you said.

The Roman character was written to be fairly decent guy who was also a prick. He wanted to be better than he was. He rejected his mother because she was almost totally evil, self-centered and amoral; she is mean to her kids, betrays and abuses those close to her. Roman hates her for this, showing that he is a better person. And he hates having the curse of needing to feed on blood and the murderous urges that come with that. So there are a lot of positives to his character.
But his mother's personality rubbed off on him in some ways. He is a privileged prick, especially after he inherits his money and bites his mother's tongue off. There is a battle inside him, the good and the bad raging against each other. The fruits of the bad side ripen in season 3.

Roman wound up making the same mistake Peter did; he avoided having to tell a terrible truth by lying to a close friend, and it brings tragedy. Peter lied to Destiny about having her fiance killed. Destiny confronts and accuses Roman and Roman finally tells her the truth: she doesn't believe him and slaps him hard. Roman hits her back and she gets mortally wounded when she falls and breaks a glass table.
Roman then thinks that Peter won't forgive him for this and decides to kill Destiny and lie to Peter. He almost gets away with it but that unravels finally.

The denouement chosen by the writers was to kill off almost everyone, giving the show a "crime does not pay" flavor.

I didn't mind that so much. I just didn't think season 3 had the same punch as the first season, which was my favorite.

[–] rickyc111 8 years ago

It's a dark sci-fi/horror series and the laws of that universe asserts that all that committed evil must die. Of course, some good people die also. Horror stories rarely have happy endings. Dark sci-fi rarely has happy endings. Typically, both genres are cautionary tales. Of course, some characters change along the way and are redeemed. They and the heroes don't usually die unless it's for impact to make the tale more memorable. I don't think that there was any better ending to this marvelous series. I enjoyed it (and the wonderful acting of Shelly 2.0), although it wasn't the best I've binge-watched recently (Breaking Bad was the best).

[–] vicky_lc2001 (1907) 7 years ago

The resolution was really badly done. It was beyond idiotic for them to have Roman kill Peter's cousin because apparently Peter could never forgive him for self defense. I just wanted the last 3 episodes to be over and done with and it was horrible all the way through.

[–] R_Kane (15828) 6 years ago

I’ve rarely seen a project that began with so much promise screw the pooch this badly. Season 1 was invigorating. By Season 3, I felt the writers were deliberately pissing on me. It’s like they were tweaked to the gills, and high on their drug-induced ideas, and saying stuff to each other, all excited, like, “And then, we’ll take the Latino private-eye guy and turn him into a Brujo spirit named Chonga and give him a personality that’s a cross between Joan Rivers, Woody Allen and a shithouse rat. And . . . and then . . . AND THEN LET’S TAKE ANNIE AND HAVE HER TELL PETER THAT ROMAN MURDERED DESTINY WHICH IS THE MOST STUPID, SHELFISH AND DESTRUCTIVE THING SHE COULD POSSIBLY DO . . . And then, let’s have Annie show how selfless, thoughtful and truly courageous she is by killing herself to make sure that Olivia dies . . . Yeah, let’s do that. That’s good. That makes sense. Hey! Is there any more toot?”