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Anyone else hate the 'bride in black' twist?


I loved the old woman in the first movie, and the not knowing/mystery part of a dark character is always a great aspect. I don't like delving deeper into characters like that because they rarely meet expectations. I especially didn't like the serial killer/abused son twist. It just didn't measure up to the kind of horror the character presented in the first film, imo.

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I thought that was very disappointing myself. I still feel much more creeped out by the idea that an old woman is obsessed with becoming a boy. Why couldn't there be transgender ghosts?? Isn't it creepier to imagine the mother of the little boy was actually the old lady? That she abused her son because she hated herself for being born female instead of male? And old women are usually seen as so docile, sweet and harmless. But all of a sudden, when they make it to the other side, GOD HELP ANYONE.

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I liked the story, it's a nice twist.

"No one is gonna take my soul away i'm living like Targaryen"

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Anyone else hate the 'bride in black' twist?

Not really. I thought it was a pretty decent attempt at creating a backstory for an intriguing character that wasn't fully explored in the first film but audiences wanted to know more about. I mean, how much more can you extrapolate on the red demon guy that looks like a circus act from Cirque du Soleil? Not much.

Think about it from a film making perspective: you sit around a boardroom table spit-balling ideas... eventually someone comes up with what we have. Not a bad thought process at all, given the nature of the genre. Or maybe the character was already fleshed out in preproduction or storyboarding during the original, but they just couldn't fit it in, but made an ideal backup plan for a sequel.

Take Prometheus as a perfect example of what not to do. You have the ground-breaking original Alien, an iconic movie that presented the Space Jockey in a brief scene, yet implied so much backstory that fans have wanted to know more for the last 37 years, and yet all we got was convoluted drivel instead of what we all wanted to know: what planet the Space Jockey came from, and how the Derelict got stranded on LV-426? All from a brief but pivotal scene.

Insidious 2 managed to do this successfully. It took a side character that wasn't the crux of the plot, but held enough weight to make people wonder, then cleverly interwove the timeline of events into the previous film. Clearly there was a vague game plan from the outset in terms of story arc. Not a bad effort.

What would you have done differently?

OCJOC

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