Why the Celine hate?

Hi all

First things first - I'm a man in my 20's. I came to see that movie trilogy about 2-3 months ago, after seeing "My Dinner With Andre" (A great film as well) and getting a recommendation about the first two (And other films as well)

I have watched those two, without knowing what to expect, and was blown away. The first one was amazing, and the second one didn't fall anywhere beneath it. I've heard there was a 3rd movie as well. At first, I wasn't sure if the third will be great or just a "Moneygrab sequel" - But seeing it's the same director, the 8.1 ranking and the fact that the second one was brilliant, I've decided to give it a god

And guess what? It didn't fail as well. Here's my theory

Before Sunrise - The movie is about Jesse and Celine. No one else, period. Two young and single people discovering an amazing bond between them, and a magical night they spend together. "It's only about us and we care about no one else" - Pretty much first a man and woman on their 20's, along with the "I'm discovering and learning things about the world and the process of life" which is a great and something every man should have and makes a great part of the humankind's purpose

The ending is superb - We have no clue what will happen, if any. I guess people who saw this in 1995 had many thoughts and ideas about the outcome, which only made this movie even greater - This movie easily belongs to the movies of "You had to be there to fully understand" (i.e. "2001: A Space Odyssey, "Alien", "Star Wars", "The Shawshank Redemption", "Reservoir Dogs", you catch my drift)
When I saw this movie, my mind was driving like mad, so many thoughts and ideas sprung to me, about life, about love, aboud the "Second Half" which I'm so eager to find (Similar thoughts about this accrued to me while seeing "Californication" when seeing the relationship of Hank and Karen)

Before Sunset - 9 years have passed both in real life and in the movie, and we get to see them once again, reunited after all these years. It starts with the same theme - It's only the two of us. But after a while we learn it's not only about them anymore. They grew up, they're in a different phase. Each one has something left behind - A failing marriage and a "We barely see each other" relationship (2 sides of a one of many equations). I myself was sad to hear each one moved on because I felt and knew they belong to each other, even though times have changed - But it's not over yet - I was right. Those relationships are nothing like the one between Jesse and Celine. And once again, another great ending! We have no solid idea what's going to get on next, again, new ideas. The "I know" line is so simple, generic, and common, but it gets another charm in this scene

For me - This time it focuses about "The one we missed". We had them in our grasp, and for some reason, it didn't happen or just ended. We moved on, but we could never forget them, we didn't get what we want and needed, we just settled - And it doesn't suck - It just burns, burns you from the inside

A great example would be this thread - It's not fiction, It's real life
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112471/board/nest/197320853

The bond between those two wasen't broken, damaged, or hurt, it was just frozen. And when those two met once again, it just came out again, without anything dropped or missed - The only thing that troubled it were the shields both Jesse and Celine had, and that by the movie's and were broken

Before Midnight - My fear was crushed. This movie ranks with the previous two. This time, it's much much less about Jesse and Celine
We start the movie with them, showing the family - Jesse's son and their twins. We see them in a hotel, among other folks and couples, near the movie's half, they're finally alone and together, and everything seems right like we think it should - but then, a fight between them, and most of it is due to other people and things that aren't Jesse and Celine - The kids, Celine's mother, work, ambitions, etc.

I think the fight shows 2 major things:
1) Jesse and Celine are one of the best couples I've ever seen in the media, and they basically complete each other - It's just so magical in the first two movies, but the message here is clear - Even with a couple like this, nothing is perfect and both sides need to work hard in order to keep it up, if not harder - Because the outcome of losing your other half is much worse than "just losing somebody"
2) This is something Celine represents - Her ambitions as a young woman aren't the same anymore - There are other aspects you have to take in account before going to them - Best shown in the movie's beginning when she seriously considering working with someone she hates - A thing that young Celine would never settle for or even think to do so - This is another phase
The third movie is indeed sadder but it is the most realistic - Everything can break and nothing is failproof. Work hard to keep things the way they should and don't give up
So much happens in 18 years, and without knowing Ethan Hawk & Julie Delpy's life outside the movie, I am sure each one brought his own personal experience to the role, heck, they are in the middle of the process themselves

Another important point is the dinner they have back at the hotel - We see other couples besides them - Each one representing different times and ideas
Natalia and Patrick represent the past - Their stories tell so much, mostly about the sad part of breakup - The one you didn't plan to, but things have to be said
Stefanos and Ariadni - The present - They're equivalents of Jesse and Celine, but they both got married a long time ago - They are also the ones who got them the hotel room - I guess this means something - You have to experience things like that for yourselves, and this is the next step in your relationship
Achilleas and Anna - The future. The best thing is the idea of "Before Sunrise" in the current times - We were seperated for 2 months? Nah, we talked and saw each other every night on Skype! (jesse and Celine haven't seen each other for 9 YEARS!)

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I got sort of carried away here, but I have to ask - What's with Celine hate?
I've seen this mostly in the Before Sunset board, people claiming Celine is manipulative, a liar, etc. It gets to the point people are certain that she lied about her grandmother's death, etc. Most accusations also come from the fight between them

Why is that so?
She does have a point, you may agree with it and you may do the opposite, but blaming only one side in this is wrong in my opinion, and why?
What this trilogy does best is get to the idea and mind of both men and women. It shows realism and makes one of most men and women around the globe wish come true - Finding the other half.
Considering that idea, I really really doubt that there's only one side to blame - Both Jesse and Celine are treated equally, and I really would love to hear why some people accuse her much more than Jesse, and I'm saying this is a man who had a fight or two with women and sometimes also said to himself "What's wrong with them?"


All the movies I've ever seen - http://www.imdb.com/list/HFZcsiCTh38/