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Starts off extremely well, becomes extremely bad. A real shame.


This movie started off very well and kept me engaged up until around the time when Mr. know it all and do it all scientist proclaimed 'I know what they are' and then went on to quickly rig a bunch of untested energy weapons, armour etc. and figured everything out. After that the plot line turned to absolute *beep*, an insult to intelligence really. It's like the director said 'ok, this went on for long enough, lets wrap this up'.

The plot simply discarded all common sense and along with it any suspense and mystery. Starting from the idea that nobody could contact anyone to get reinforcements using a simple satellite phone or radio, that or a single scientist figuring everything out and quickly building effective weapons that took 'hyperspectrals' down and right down to the idiotic way the 'hyperspectrals' were supposedly manufactured and controlled.


Do yourself a favour, watch the first hour and then turn it off. The movie will leave a much better impression. Otherwise, just like those human brains in vats, yours too will magically vaporise. There's 'science fiction' with a logical, believable plot and then there's science fiction with an idiotic, lets get this over plot, sadly this falls in the latter category.



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For all it's faults I must say it was and enjoyable couple of hours. I agree the last quarter seemed rushed but I can't fault the sets or visuals which were top-notch. I'd love to see a few more entertaining low budget scifi movies like this, the good ones are few and far between.

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Thing is, it could have been great. As is, it's a sci-fi movie that started of well and went REALLY bad. There's no other way to describe it. If it was all mediocre, I wouldn't be posting this. Thing is, it actually had a lot of potential, which was promptly flushed down the toilet.

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I've done a bit more reading and can see why it looks so good now as far from low budget they had $70m to spend, so yeah, perhaps we could have expected something a little better story-wise. I still like it though.

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That's the problem with hollywood these days - they spend a lot of money on special effects and very, very little money on the script itself. Pretty much every major hollywood blockbuster suffers from the same problem. Having said that, the vast majority of people are gulping it up like there's no tomorrow - so there's no reason to change the formula.

I now consider myself a part of the lost generation - I don't get most of the films made today which people are raving about. In that sense, I guess you could say I don't get the new generation.

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When he said they could build guns with plasma discharge with the weapons/equipment they had in the refugee camp, I rolled my eyes. Then when they had not just one or two plasma guns but a DOZEN (including a supercharged cannon), I was disappointed they got that silly. Prior to that, they were doing a great job keeping the movie somewhat plausible. I mean damn, if he can MacGuyver weapons like that, why is the military even using conventional bullets anymore?

The lab thing did seem a little weird but I was okay with it. They needed to tie up the moral lesson of technology not being used for violence that they started at the beginning of the movie.

Ultimately I still enjoyed the movie and I'd call it "intelligent action". They tried to ground most of it in plausible science, but ultimately did get silly in the name of more explosions and action.

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Here's the counter point to why the military isn't using the laser weapons he made. If you paid attention to the beginning he didn't want to make weapons for war he wanted to make weapons as non lethal as possible (freeze/boil water supply) he built the plasma(?) Weapons out of necessity. And the rumour is that necessity is the mother of innovation so why would the military fund *finger quotes* Lazer beams if regular bullets work just fine. It wasn't a great movie(new gas masks and useless armor after the weapon Montage) but it was a solid movie in my opinion. Kinda felt rushed to me like the ending of edge of tomorrow

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Yup. Sadly this.

I am not someone who likes FX-driven action movies, and did roll my eyes at reverse-the-polarity, but I was really liking it, wondering why they decided to distribute it so cheaply.

Then the writers decided the murder ghosts can run at tanks hard enough to destroy them. What?

What is the deal with all bad guys being infinitely powerful? Noticed that? Even your everyday mass murderer on a police procedural is insanely smart, has time traveler abilities to predict what is going on, is powerful enough to hold people up with one hand on their necks, etc. And here, the murder ghosts band together with no communications, etc. to attack specific targets? Why was that necessary?

And aside from the enemy, here why so many hand-wave problems? The Ospreys have 20 minutes of fuel because for some reason General Depression decided to take only unfueled ones? They can't call home because shrug?

And don't get me started on the last 45 minutes. I wasn't looking at the clock, and expected the initial extraction to be close to the end. Maybe that fails and they hide out somewhere where someone tells them why war causes bad spirits, etc. and then we go escape and live our lives. Yea!

The last half felt like it should have been the outline for a sequel instead. Oh, except for maybe the whole it's a conspiracy powerplant stuff, and certainly the fake tech-the-tech, MacGuyver solution to everything. That was awful.

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If you "reverse" a turbocharger, you can make a jet engine :)

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I gotta agree with the OP, the first 70 minutes was really well done -- tight script, believable characters, solid filmmaking. But after "I know what they are" the script took a left turn into Buck Rogers Land. *sigh*

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Agree. I lost all hope when they found the children and Mr. know it all made the searchlight by "reversing polarity". Pure bs.
Also, when they were there the girl said "I don't know anything about what my father was doing" but then in the bunker she was like "Oh wait I forgot this vital information".

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The movie declined after the tank had the same tech as the guy made 2 sec prior. Suddenly they could see the ghost again. DIdnt he invent that? How come the tank had that tech now to?

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Care to share? I dont remeber hearing anything about it except... "Those are our people"

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I see a page full of valid complaints and then this. You must have missed it while they made the "dangerous" call out of that building to HQ and he offered to give them exact instructions on how to make the ghost searchlights from scratch. In terms of storytelling they had that particular point covered. I had more of a problem with how lucky he was with having all the right parts to McGyver together, none of these parts breaking down, and him knowing exactly what to do.

I also had a problem with the intelligence officer's inconsistent character. The writing for her character seemed all over the place.

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