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'Sexism,' they whined


When I began perusing assorted bloggings, Internet wisdom, etc. on this movie I was expecting to see complaints about the ludicrous and useless wraparound story of the robbery-porn crew (and definitely read quite a few) but found these critiques were accompanied by an equal volume of people protesting the presence of certain disagreeable male characters--the moral quality of whom I'd have thought too self-evident to bother pointing out. The epithet most often and automatically invoked to decry the characters was a specific device for women's hygiene, ironically.

Now I know an easy evaluation is that the web supports an over-the-weight-limit load of fulminating commentators, female and otherwise, who get off on the sort of pointless grandstanding that can only be derived from slamming fictional persons, enough said. But it got me wondering: is V.H.S. prominently lacking in feminist fiber? Even by the standards of horror, the most notoriously sexist of all popular movie genres? Is there really a case for that?

At the end of the movie the macho dunces turn belatedly chivalrous, and there's also part of the Tuesday the 17th sketch where the meathead fratboy stereotype is approached by a sexually assertive maiden (with ulterior motive to be sure) but fails to react in the prescribed fashion. Ti West's entry plays like something out of The L Word and the Joe Swanberg-directed vignette, though undoubtedly fraught with feminine frailty, doesn't exactly portray the male authority figure in a glowing light. IMO the first recorded mini-story was too sickly comic to try to glean any message from it, but it wouldn't be a patriarchal one at any rate.

Compare to another "reality horror" staple, the Paranormal Activity industry, which purveys obviously sexist themes--to wit, that all post-adolescent ladyfolk act a little crazy (hormones, ya know) and anyway once they get fully possessed by poltergeists you won't notice till it's too late, so look out for any wandering toddlers they might swoop in to pick off. Naturally later in the series this motif was shifted into hilarious overdrive by introducing a real live coven.

If somebody who's put a bit of thought into it can precisely explain how V-H-S is essentially misogynistic I'd be curious to hear that. So far the criticisms look to me like reflexive, brainless sneering, or the rote reactions of people trying to get a grip on the obvious.

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This is some great insight.

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They can't actually explain why.

The problem with radical feminists is they think any time they see a tit on screen it's sexist unless its in some "womyn" empowering feminist porn or performance art. Anything in mass media MUST be exploitation. It MUST be sexist. They didn't even mention one guy got his dick ripped off.

Radical feminists they don't at all factor in any misandry because they think men are lesser beings. They see men as expendable. They don't give a crap what happened to those men. Just the women. They whine about every little stupid thing where a woman may be seen as weak.

In the first few segments it was the women who were stronger, killers, yet because some of them got naked, it's sexist and horrible. I guess women can't decide when to have sex any more. And BTW some feminists say ALL SEX IS RAPE because society pressures women into having sex so much they technically can't consent. Yes they believe this. Look it up. I've heard the rants.

As for the girl who didn't want to have sex on camera, that was in NO WAY overly forceful. They guy was kind of annoying but he didn't hurt her. Really? This is considered attempted rape now? Jesus Christ. The feminists are just awful. Look what they say about Robin Thicke. And don't get me started on the ones who scream that the SAW movies are misogynistic when the majority of victims in that franchise are MALE.

See they never look at the male suffering, just the women. These are little girls who think that castrating all men will stop rape. Or even genocide of the male species.

Compared to other horror movies out there, this was tame. Yet if you have a tit in a movie, a feminist will cry about it.

BTW I am female, I am egalitarian and trust me I have dealt with these morons for far too long. They think men's feelings don't count because men have all the power, and it's completely okay to ignore their suffering.

This movie was not sexist. Those women who cry that are moronic.

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Thanks for saying what men aren't allowed to say. Radical feminists, like all radicals, do their cause far more harm than good, and are too damned dumb to see it.

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The problem with this post is that... feminists aren't the people who think this is sexist. They're probably not even women, bro. I've only seen a handful of people on this board who think V/H/S might be sexist and none of them have done it in an accusatory or feminazi way. It's mainly men coming and saying "This film seemed kind of sexist, what do you think?"

It's funny, we have a bunch of people in this thread throwing accusations at 'the great feminist mindmeld,' but how many people in this thread actually said the movie is sexist? You are attacking an invisible enemy that does not exist.

Feminists aren't the ones who think this movie is sexist.

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"Pride is not the opposite of shame, but its source. True humility is the antidote to shame."

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Late reply but yeah they are. Also I'm not your "bro" I'm an anti-feminist and trust me 99% of the crap I see about sexism in movies is from feminists, or "white night" sackless males trying to agree with these feminists so they can get laid. Trust me, it's ALWAYS feminists or women brainwashed by feminists or men who have been whipped by feminists. I'm a female for the record. Don't call me BRO.

If the movie stinks, just dont go

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I'm a female for the record. Don't call me BRO.
Easy,tiger!! I call my daughters "bro" and we all laugh :)

I don't love her.. She kicked me in the face!!

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Repulsive.

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Repulsive.

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After seeing these post, I wanted to check if the OP was for real...
This person must be the most sophisticated (pretentious) troll ever. Check out their profile:

They have rated under 20 movies.
From the ones he has rated he gave 'The Cabin in the Woods' a 1 and gave Uwe Boll's 'House of the Dead' a 9. I'm not saying that someone can't have their own tastes and preferences when it comes to movies, but to give 'The Cabin in the Woods' a 1, you must give one very long-winded, pretentious explanation as to why you thought it an abomination of a film when compared to 'House of the Dead' (his highest rated film).

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Hahaha maybe it was a mistake. Maybe he/she thought they were rating the House of the Dead video game... But even then, a 9?!

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It's far more misandrist than misogynistic.

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Everything has to have a political message regardless of whether the writers intended their to be one or not. I watched this movie with no outside influence and didn't think sexism at all or any political message for that matter.

People of certain political persuasions just tend to look for things to confirm their belief system. It's call confirmation bias.

Just try and write a villain character that is a rapist and bad reviewers will try and interpret it a billion different political ways. The character can't just be a despicable person essential to the plot, they have to stand for something sexism, misandry, patriarchy and capitalism they can't just be a psychopath or antagonist.

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I'm replying a bit late, but I totally agree with you. To me, it was just a horror movie. Political opinions make people into a bunch of humorless whiners sometimes, unable to simply enjoy a movie.

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I'm not a feminist by any means. As a matter of fact, I think a lot of if not most feminist claims or grievances are silly or illogical.

That being said, all the female characters in this movie either betrayed the confidence of their male counterparts or existed as merely sex objects or damsels to be rescued. If That was the case for one or two of the segments, I'd be willing to overlook it. But considering this was the case for EVERY segment, it'd got to be a bit tiresome and annoying.

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This commentary was incredibly pretentious. This isn't a Prep School essay, it's a casual film-discussion forum.

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