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requires an understanding+thorough knowledge of classical art/philosophy


“One great part of human existence,” James Joyce wrote, “is passed in a state which cannot be rendered sensible by the use of wideawake language, cutanddry grammar and goahead plot.” Malick’s films are trying to catch glimpse of this “great part of human existence”. The task is surely bound to leave many viewers icily unmoved. Nevertheless, Malick’s moving-images have always been tediously and consciously chosen and meditated upon, they are far from arbitrary. Yet part of the reason for Malick’s recent ill reception is quite simply because he is making movies that assume an affinity with the traditional arts and philosophy, particularly those with deeply Christian elements. In a decidedly post-Christian world, Malick’s meaning-rich images will simply flitter by, unperceived and, possibly, unwanted. Critics are understandably at a cultural loss here; akin to an American child hearing Swahili for the first time, they simply mistake immediate incomprehension with empty gibberish. For example, before writing off the last scene of The Tree of Life as a Prozac commercial for heaven, perhaps critics ought to have read Dante’s Commedia, particularly canto thirty of Paradiso, and understood that Malick is doing something strikingly similar, conjuring up images directly from its pages. Malick’s films are chockfull of allusions, it’s as if James Joyce, Dante, and Kierkegaard sat down and decided to make a film together. The result is an inexhaustible treasure that rewards multiple viewings year after year."


If this movie appeared to be gibberish to you, fear not! You are not alone. I advise anyone that felt this way to read this piece a few times and look into the philosophers/writers and books being discussed. Enjoy:

http://www.curatormagazine.com/trevor-logan/kierkegaard-in-l-a-terrence-malicks-knight-of-cups/

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I don't think it's necessary to read those books that you are talking about, but it is necessary to personally experience what those people write about.

And that what they write about has actually nothing to do with identifying with all the books you read and trying to come of as an intellectual. I am not saying you are btw.

Thanks for the link

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...because believe it or not it is one of Terry's favorite films. Yes, not a joke, Terrence Malick loves the movie Zoolander.

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Seems like the time for this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J4DcJE1GtU.

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That Curator magazine article didn't quote Joyce accurately (and not be a stickler, nor did you) , how are we supposed to take their riff on what he meant seriously?

I don't accept the proposition that Malick is Kierkegaard, Joyce and Dante rolled into one. Malicks pretension and overwrought indulgence completely usurps what he is trying to say. Knight Of Cups face-plants.

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