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My problems with the 'twist'


My problem with this movie is: the twist doesn’t work.

I’m not a huge fan of Gus Van Sant, but I have seen the majority of his movies. Many of them are difficult to sit through, not that they aren’t good films. He doesn’t make many films that are assessable to all audiences, but this one seems one of his better ones.

Before I get into my problem with the film, I want to state that I really liked this film. I liked how most of the characters are drawn to be real and mostly sympathetic, even the “bad guys”. It left you to figure out who to root for, even though your conscious is telling you what the right decision is.

But the problem with the twist is John Krasinski’s character. He seems believable at first, but after you find out what he’s been up to, some of his earlier actions don’t make any sense. Why continue to egg on Matt Damon’s character when the townfolks aren’t in sight? Why plaster up his car and the doorway to his hotel room with flyers? What’s the point of that? The townfolks know which side he’s coming down on, but if the guy wanted to play it true and not let Matt Damon in on what he was doing, he could just politely tell Damon’s character that he has a difference of opinion on what’s he’s doing.

Why ask questions like “Do you like what you’re doing? Do you like your job?” What do those questions serve, knowing what we know, except as a message to the audience? The two characters make it into a winner take all competition, but then we discover they’re on the same side. THEN, why does Krasinski continue to berate Damon? “You didn’t really win, I gave you that info.” It’s like the character has some huge ego and can’t play along and let Damon “win” even though he knows what’s going on. If you ask me, Krasinski’s character is to blame for the deal falling through, and if I were his boss I would have fired him upon his return. Yes, he should have gotten in the truck and driven away.

And another thing, it the company wanted to play both sides, why did they hire a younger and assumedly less experienced guy to tackle to role of setting up the huge lying scheme? Wouldn’t you want one of your best “liars” to go to town and fill this role? This guy couldn’t keep a secret because his ego got in the way. And why the big surprise that Krasinski’s character would know where the pictures were taken? Wouldn’t he have known where he downloaded the images on-line from? And why in the hell would the company use pictures of one of the company’s REAL disasters? Why wouldn’t they use pics of cows killed in a tornado? It doesn’t matter where Krasinski lied about the pictures coming from Nebraska (or wherever it was), they were pictures of the company’s actual f- up!

The film was transparently a “message movie”. Everything said and done in the film served the message – the fact that they would hire someone to get “caught” in the lie, and the fact that audience gets to see the real damage done by this company even though no company in their right mind would use actual pictures of their real disaster. The questions they ask of Damon’s character, even though misplaced from the point of view of Krasinski’s character, serve to turn around Damon and “do the right thing”. I don’t mind the message, and I don’t think it was THAT heavy handed, I just wish the director and writers (Damon and Krasinski) had been smarter in putting it together.

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My problem with this movie is: the twist doesn’t work.
I think it kind of works in terms of a surprising turn of events for the movie, but I just couldn't see it happening IRL for a lot of the reasons you mentioned and I just couldn't see the company taking the chance at being exposed as it was.
Yes, he should have gotten in the truck and driven away.
Absolutely!

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at the time I thought Krasinski's reveal, and cut down of Damon was not needed, and over the top..... but to get Damon to give the reaction he did, it was necessary.

I liked the ending....

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My problem is that I can't tell if John Krazsinski is a bad actor or his character is acting badly. Throughout the movie, it felt like it was a put on character, even after his big reveal.

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No you guys are all wrong, you missed the TWIST WITHIN THE TWIST

Athena Envrio does exist. John Kras is a real environmentalist. He brilliantly played Matt Damon by posing as a Global employee.

I still don't understand why Matt had a change of heart at the end though.

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The reveal itself doesn't make any sense. Damon asks Krasinski how he knew where the real farm was. Well he had the pictures of the farm - how would he not know where the farm was, having pictures of the farm? Obviously he didn't take pictures himself, but he was someone who knew about the real farm; he could have just been an environmentalist who needed a sob story or a con man who wanted an angle.

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Great points.

I don't have so much a problem with the overall twist as with Krasinski's character spilling the beans on himself. That made no sense. The lie he wants to get caught in is that his environmental data is bogus. He doesn't want to get caught in the lie that he works for Global and that he's just there to get caught in the lie so the people will rally to Global.

Once Damon 'caught' him, he should have gotten angry, gone on a rant that the only way to fight big companies like Global is to lie, and taken off. Damon reveals the lie he was intended to find and the town - angry at being lied to - goes Global. Case closed.

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