Yup you are right, I had a typo, the director of the episode I watched (15MM) Euros Lynn is the one with the male partner. Now I see that Charlie Brooker is the creator. I think he is pretty open to all kinds of people though minorities, men, women, different sexualities I believe.
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Just wondering about Entire History of You, why did you think Toby Kebbell's character was utterly loathsome? I believe that yes he did act in extreme ways, he was just looking for the truth. His wife lied to him to the point of where their child might not even be his. And of course the affair in their own bed.I think the majorities of husbands would be livid if they knew a friend who had sex tapes of their wife which they could watch over again. So I think he was right to make that guy erase the tapes and not bother their family. Where he went over the line though was probably talking to his wife at the end. He probably should have forgiven her after all there is a kid involved, but before that last conversation I dont think he was completely despicable. Jonas character I agree was.
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solmaquina
9 years ago
He acted in extreme ways that weren't justified by his search for "the truth". This is set in a society where the sex-tapes in question are par for the course and it's heavily implied that even Toby is guilty of maintaining memories from previous relationships, himself. Maybe "utterly loathsome" was too strong in his case, but he's, at best, a mixed bag.
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elcherino
9 years ago
Yea I saw a bit of OCD and self-destructiveness. What makes the character so interesting is to think how anyone would act in that situation. I mean if I had a friend do that to me and openly mock me I probably wouldn't handle it very well. If he didnt play investigator, who's to say his wife wouldn't continue cheating on him, and Jonas making fun of him (without him knowing it) at every single dinner meeting. Hence the search for the truth, and I think he would have been okay once he got Jonas to delete the video. That way they all go their separate ways and the marriage can be saved or preserved. I think he still could have worked it out with Ffion and raised the child, who's ever it may be.
If however he was doing the same as Jonas (which I didnt catch but it could have been a poor viewing), and kept and rewatched previous relationships for pleasure and would go openly mock others. Then yes I would agree with you utterly loathsome. A man must stand for a principle, but if he disobeys his own principle, well then...
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Meldove
8 years ago
Just wondering about Entire History of You, why did you think Toby Kebbell's character was utterly loathsome? I believe that yes he did act in extreme ways, he was just looking for the truth. His wife lied to him to the point of where their child might not even be his. And of course the affair in their own bed.I think the majorities of husbands would be livid if they knew a friend who had sex tapes of their wife which they could watch over again. So I think he was right to make that guy erase the tapes and not bother their family. Where he went over the line though was probably talking to his wife at the end. He probably should have forgiven her after all there is a kid involved, but before that last conversation I dont think he was completely despicable. Jonas character I agree was.
He did become an obsessed man, however I think his obsession in knowing his wife was lying to him and she was. What started as a week long fling, turned into a six month relationship. It just seemed like lie after lie and then he found out she had sex with him in their bed. They may have been going through a bad time in their marriage, however there is no excuse to bring another to the bed she shares with her husband. What spouse wouldn't be infuriated? The worse part was she lied repeatedly and kept getting caught in her lies. So, yes I consider her pretty despicable and I see him as man that became overly obsessed and saw his world fall apart because of it. To the point that he cut the device out at the end, I think that was the smartest move he made.
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Feigenbaum-attractor
8 years ago
Personally I saw him as much much worse than she.
I saw her initial lie as her trying to not make him jealous, it's common in new relationships to play down past relationships.
Her subsequent lies I saw as her trying to downplay the whole situation as her husband began to get obsessed. His obsession and subsequent behaviour was way over the top. You have to let the past stay in the past. If she didn't want to tell him then thats her business.
She is of course guilty of cheating but she did say she did that while they were on a break and he had been gone a few days.
On the other hand he stayed up all night replaying the dinner party and getting drunk before going out and assaulting the ex. He should have been locked up imo.
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