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Why are people confused? (spoilers)


So a guy finds plants that have a certain discoloration to them and knows that, if lucky, he can find a complex parasite. He finds them and then uses them on people to get all of their money. This worm, in a way, becomes a part of that person and is then transferred into a pig. The pig and the person are now eternally connected. This cycle has been going on for a while until Kris comes into the mix. She finds another survivor and they slowly try to figure the whole ordeal out. They find the pig farm, she kills the man who was herding the pigs and not allowing them free will. They find the other victims, they take care of the pigs, and they have their life back. We then see the guy from the beginning again and he's looking through all of the plants and can't find the correct discoloration. The cycle is over.

I don't mean to sound rude, but the review on the front page makes it sound like some people didn't even try with this film. What does it all mean? I'm not quite sure. But saying that the film is nothing but a bunch of moments that stick with you but don't stick together really isn't fair. The film tells a clear story.

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Sounds like a pretty silly story, the way the OP lays it out there. Considerably sillier than the actual movie which (very wisely) eschews the linear storytelling.



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She never kills the farmer, she envisions it. It is just showing her anger. They buy the pig farm and raise happy pigs. Otherwise, she would be in jail for murder. It is as if the pigs willed her into it. and that is part of the point that there was a connection between her and the pig, just like the two boys had a unique connection.

Really her relationship with Shane's character was bizarre, very little to talk about and their physical connection was like a gay guy and a lesbian trying to be a couple. (not that I think the actress is gay, I just mean the odd way they relate to each other.) They both have strange pasts. His wife left him because of his drug addiction and she had a boyfriend who 'controlled' her, spent her money, and left (portrayed in a symbolic masterpiece.) I couldn't really tell if she had cancer treatment that left her infertile or an abortion, but I really didn't concentrate on that section anyway.

In the end, I want a pet pig so the film really did implant a seed in my mind that is growing. Did I see a God reference, everyone wants to know? Perhaps if that is what you are looking for. I see that Pigs have a version of friendships, a love of sound, art, food, and poetry just like humans (well almost).

In the end, I cared more about the pigs than the two characters.

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so what? you got your own interpretation of the story. it is such an experience that is reshaped by anyone who watches and everyone has their interpretation of the film. So there is actually no clear story. This film was about feelings and yet your synopsis is devoid of that which is unfortunate. I suggest you try enjoying the films you watch without trying to completely understand every single plot detail about it.

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yeah I only had to read the wikipedia article two times after watching the movie to understand what the hell was going on

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Ok, your synopsis is how I basically saw the movie too, I came here to confirm that I "got it" as much as I could anyway. I felt like this movie was way more straight forward than Primer. I would never have understood Primer without reading an extremely detailed explanation of it. This movie was obviously weird and vague also, but much easier to follow, which I appreciated.

Did this movie make anyone else want to go out and adopt a baby pig? They make great pets I hear; smarter than dogs supposedly.

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In addition to the many questions already raised in this thread, I have two additional points that I'm confused about:

Wikipedia had identified the "worm" as being "a live roundworm harvested from larvae", which was edited in January 2015 to read "a larva that presumably is infected with a roundworm":
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Upstream_Color&diff=643114279&oldid=638859842.
In either case, we see Kris infected with a single larva. But when she is waking on her bed we see at least five separate roundworms invading her: her right leg, chest, left leg, right arm, and left arm. It could be argued that these additional worms are hallucinations in her confused waking state; or that the original larva is not a roundworm larva, but as suggested by the January edit is itself infected with not one roundworm but multiple roundworms. We see something microscopically generating, but I think you get only one adult form from a single larva. Or perhaps this is a single "magic" worm that can appear in different places nearly simultaneously. Kris becomes aware of the worm in her right arm, and then immediately turns her head to see the worm in her left arm. She then tries to cut out only the one inside her left leg.
If there are in fact multiple worms in her body, and only one is removed by the Sampler for transfer to the pig, then the rest will still be inside Kris, unless he is able to find and remove them all. I think this is not an unimportant question, because Carruth is so intently specific about showing us these five separate areas of Kris's body, with one worm in each.

I also wonder about the diagnosis at the hospital of a removed cancer that has rendered Kris sterile. The doctors would surely be unaware of the effects of this particular "worm", and it seems more likely to me that what they see as a removed cancer is actually an attack by the worm for its own obscure parasitic purposes. Again, this is not trivial; Carruth makes it an important issue.


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Kaream,
When the Sampler was removing the worm, it came out in one long tapeworm piece. In fact, it was such a long piece that he had to simultaneously inject it in the pig. When he was removing the "tapeworm" the individual worms seemed to loosen up and come out of her body. I assumed it was one long piece that could be seen in multiple parts of her body at once, but now that I think of it that doesn't make much sense. However, that's how it appeared in the film. I came to believe that what the doctors assumed was a removed cancer was actually the removal site of the tapeworm. Since in the real world an eight foot long tapeworm doesn't get removed from a body and the individual have no recollection of it (that often, at least) they had no other assumption to make about the incision in her abdomen. And yes it was an important issue, it had infected her entire body, her mind and her spirit and changed her.

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I guess you must have better drugs than the rest of us.

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