I showed them a clip of Ramin singing The Music of the Night, and they responded by telling me how much better Gerard Butler is by saying that he's smoother and perfect for the role.
Angel of Music=Ramin
Old Chain Smoker=Gerard
Was the film their first exposure to the show?
I've found people prefer their "first", even when he is so obviously inferior.
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I would assume so, I didn't actually ask. Before this DVD, it was also the only way to view the show in its entirety, so I guess a lot of people just think that it's the way it's intended to be. When in reality it is not even on par with the stage show.
shareAnyone who thinks Gerard can sing hasn't heard a real voice in the role. He's pretty to look at, he's sexy as Erik, but he's completely wrong vocally for the part. How is the Phantom supposed to teach Christine to sing if he can barely hold the note himself? =P
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"How is the Phantom supposed to teach Christine to sing if he can barely hold the note himself?"
"Those who can, do; those who can't, teach".
Personally, I don't have a problem with the idea of the phantom being a musical genius who maybe isn't the best singer. He knows how it is supposed to sound, he knows the theory behind attaining that sound he just doesn't have the ability or biology to put it into practice.
Look, I'm sorry I called you an inanimate object earlier. I was angry.
i've always looked on the movie and the stage version of Phantom as completely different
for me, the movie is made with actors who are able to sing and
the stage version is with singers who are able to act
Ramin and Gerard are both good in their roles. Ive seen the movie a few million times and was lucky enough to see Ramin a couple of times
I've heard the original cast album with Michael Crawford many times, I saw Dave Willets on the UK tour in about 1994, and I've seen the 2004 film with Gerard Butler. Yet when I saw Ramin Karimloo in London in 2008, it was the first time Music of the Night made me cry.
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Similar thing has happened to my mom and me too. I prefer to watch any stage version of POTO to the movie, while she prefers the movie anyway. She is never an Andrew Lloyd Webber fan like me. I personally have never seen any POTO performance before the 2004 movie was released, but have been an ALW fan since my music teacher in junior high school introduced Cats to us, and has bought and listened to many ALW's collection CDs that includes several songs from POTO numerous times. I have played the CDs to my mom even before the release of the 2004 movie, but she was never as interested as I was until the movie came out. Thus no matter how many times I play the Original London Cast Recordings to her, I couldn't persuade her to like Sarah Brightman's and Michael Crawford's version more than the movie like me.
P.S. I still appreciate Gerard Butler's effort in playing the Phantom in the movie. I've heard that he has actually taken singing lessons for six months before the screening of the movie began. IMO he already did very well as someone who was not a professional in singing. Though I still prefer Michael Crawford, Brad Little (the Phantom in the Asian tour -- I have never got a chance to go to London or Broadway), and Ramin.
"Dear God.
Butler's singing made my ears bleed... and not in a good way"
When would ears bleeding be good? haha. ANYWAY, i didn't see the movie version. i refused after hearing butler a few times in trailers. But LOVED Rahmin
I've waited too long, lost too much. Requiescat in Pace...
In my opinion the title character of Phantom of the Opera was all wrong as Gerard Butler. He seemed far too young and (deformity aside) extremely handsome. His voice is weak and if was intended to teach her, he would clearly need some technique to be able to teach. Obviously Gerard Butler does not have this techinique. The movie spins the Phantom to be around Madame Giri's age, but he looks much closer to Christine's age. When I listened to the original cast recording with Michael Crawford I envisioned a Phantom who is both old enough and talented enough to be a strange mixture of father, mentor, lover, and ghost. I commend Butler for his acting, but I think his casting was horribly inaccurate for how he was written. Every other character they could've screwed up and it still would have been decent, but the title character has to fit the writing.
shareThe 2004 film is the best version and Gerard Butler did so much better. If I only see one Phantom version for the rest of my life, it's the 2004 one. And this is coming from someone who saw it live on Broadway. The 2004 film is superior.
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