come up with a story that is completely original and borrows nothing from anything that has ever been made before.
I think that you have a very narrow view on what the word
original means. Even in original compositions, there are aspects of other works and influences. I believe that when people are complaining about the unoriginality of Hollywood, they are talking about direct remakes of previously made movies, adaptations (of books, comic books, video games, board games, et al.), and sequels, which seem to be a large portion of the movies being pushed from studios these days. no matter how broad or narrow your definition of
originality is, or how much you like the films being made, there is no way that you could possibly defend this type of production as original. That's why there are two categories at the Academy Awards, one for best adapted screenplay and one for best
original screenplay.
Also, the ability to come up with a completely original idea is an incredibly arbitrary criteria to qualify one to be able to critique a movie or other production in that category. Most movie critics have never made a movie before. Most sports writers have never played professional sport. Most building inspectors have never built a skyscraper, and most restaurant patrons have never been professional chefs. You don't need to be able to do said action proficiently in order to weigh in with an opinion. All you need to do is have an opinion. In order for your opinion to be taken seriously by anyone other than those who share it, your opinion should be weighted in some actual (or rather factual) basis.
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daydreamer021979
11 years ago
What I'm saying is that at this point in time it's difficult to make something that people won't automatically compare to everything else that has already been made and no matter what you come up with people will complain that it is simply (Insert movie/book/tv series title) IN SPACE!, X meets Y, X meets Y on acid and so on. Why? I don't know. I think people just love to complain about everything. It's the downside of civilization progressing to the point that life isn't a daily struggle to survive and having too much free time on our hands. I say if something is well made regardless of it it is a direct remake or if it has obvious influences from something else I may give it a shot. If others don't want to see such things that's fine. No one is forcing them to. Do something else, but stop complaining about things you don't want to see or make something you do. Getting upset won't stop it from being made. Complaining simply draws attention to the thing you dislike and increases the likelihood others will flock to see it thus making it a success. Ignoring it would be the better plan if you want it to fail and fall into obscurity.
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KingSleaze
11 years ago
Personally on the rare occasion that remake improves upon original - I know it has happened I just can't think of one this early
It has, which is why people complaining about remakes are idiots!
Heat
Scarface
The Thing
Cape Fear
Ocean Eleven
12 Monkeys
The Fly
Casino Royale (Although technically it wasn't a remake)
Not to mention the remakes that actually turned out great, although they may not have improved on the original.
The Departed
Dawn of the Dead
King Kong (Debatable)
3:10 to Yuma
The Girl With the Dragon Tatoo
True Grit
To name a few.
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therefdotcom
11 years ago
interesting logic. so, because someone did something right, nobody has a right to complain about the cases where someone didn't? wow, that's a pretty republican point of view.
so, if someone plays a single great football game, nobody has the right to complain if he sucks for the rest of his career, right? ;)
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KingSleaze
11 years ago
You can complain about one movie if it turns out horrible. But to complain about remakes in general is idiotic.
Also, i never said anything about not having the right to complain about anything, genius! I said they were idiots, but idiots still have rights, duh!!
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therefdotcom
11 years ago
well, crass generalizations are generally stupid.
so that also counts for you, complaining about people that complain about all remakes just as much as about the people you are critizing, not to speak of being extremely hypocritical.
"Also, i never said anything about not having the right to complain about anything, genius! I said they were idiots, but idiots still have rights, duh!! "
that might be the dumbest thing i have read in a while. congrats.
lurk more.
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KingSleaze
11 years ago
You're not only an idiot, you're also an delusional idiot. Well, no point in arguing anymore with you then. Seriously, calling other idiots, has nothing to do with rights. Grow a brain idiot!!
Calling my statement dumb for calling you out on a extremely dumb statement you made, because you lack the skill of constructing a logical argument, lmao!
God, you must have a lot of people shaking their heads at you if that's how you argue in real life!
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therefdotcom
11 years ago
hahaha. well, after helpless follows angry. that was just as fast as i expected. :D
"Well, no point in arguing anymore with you then. "
one can not continue, what one did not start.
"Calling my statement dumb for calling you out"
iz u a rapper?
"because you lack the skill of constructing a logical argument"
oh the irony.
"lmao!"
you mean "letting my anger out"? xD
"God, you must have a lot of people shaking their heads at you if that's how you argue in real life! "
at least your mom nodded at my proposal.
"My movie diary and every movie i've seen "
let me guess: "dear diary, today i saw a movie. my friends liked it, but i did not understand it. cried myself to sleep."
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KingSleaze
11 years ago
Angry.... wut? LOL
You actually think you're making yourself look good here? lmao, u mad bro?... Oh well, can do nothing about the delusionals. Haha, you even try to drag me down to your delusional level, no surprise there, lol.
Fyi, you need to work on your insult so they don't look so deperate and uncreative... Good day to you idiot, i mean sir ;)
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therefdotcom
11 years ago
since this is the internet .. obviously not. duh!
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therefdotcom
11 years ago
hmm, so "i am through with this conversation" doesn't really meant "through with this conversation"?
how did i already predict that? ;)
"Fyi, you need to work on your insult so they don't look so deperate and uncreative"
if that were true, then you wouldn't put so much effort into telling me. ;)
"My movie diary and every movie i've seen "
let me guess: "dear diary, met some random stranger online today. didn't like me. cried myself to sleep".
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KingSleaze
11 years ago
Lol, you have a serious lack of reading comprehension. No point in arguing with you, doesn't mean the same as "through with this conversation. And im not arguing with you about the OP's subject anymore, am i?
Effort, LOL. You haven't seen me put any effort into this, why would i waste actual effort on delusional trolls with lack of intelligence, they won't understand me anyway. It takes seconds for me to write this post with no effort at all. You amuse me, that's all.
Your insults are based on your own lack of reading comprehension and they are the most unoriginal i have ever seen, lmao. It's like you just throw random insults (and arguments earlier) at me that you have read somewhere else, then copy pasted them to your posts, but that doesn't fit into this "conversation", it's hilarious really.
An intelligent (and actual funny) insult takes the actual facts - not what you would like them to be - and throws them back at the person that should be insulted in a creative way that doesn't ignore the actual facts.
Hmm, maybe you should follow the link. It's not an actual diary genius. It's yet another evidence of your serious (and somewhat frightening) lack of intelligence, when you try to fabricate actual facts to suit your "argument" or your kinda pathetic attempt at insults, LOL.
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therefdotcom
11 years ago
"And im not arguing"
at least that part is true
"why would i waste actual effort"
obviously you do, because your big ego. which makes this so funny.
"Your insults .... blah blah"
and yet you come back for more. masochistic?
"An intelligent (and actual funny)"
oh, the irony.
"It's not an actual diary genius. "
hahaha, you don't say.
"My movie diary and every movie i've seen "
let me guess: "dear diary, read my webstats today. only 4 hits per year. cried myself to sleep."
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LalocheziaAddict
11 years ago
Sorry I should have been clearer. I speaking of remakes of Asian movies. Although judging by your inclusion of the The Thing you'll probably say something like The Ring or Grudge.
BTW, what was 12 Monkeys and Heat remakes of? Sounds like I'd probably enjoy watching the originals given your list.
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KingSleaze
11 years ago
I like the Ring remake, but the Grudge suck. Also just to be clear, it was the John Carpenter remake of The Thing from another World, not The Thing remake with Joel Edgerton i was talking about.
12 Monkeys is a remake of the short La Jetée, and Heat is remake of Mann's own L.A. Takedown.
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therefdotcom
11 years ago
it actually makes a difference. the overall outrage of the recent "oldboy" remake showed the production company, that they might not have the cash cow there, that they expected and decided to open it in only 500 cinemas over the USA. even many less internationally. i am pretty sure that production company will think about such think at least twice before remaking another asian classic. xD
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