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REAL EXPLANATION OF THE FILM


People really haven't grasped what this movie was about. I'll explain.

The movie is about how it feels to be an artist struggling to make "real" art (as opposed to something that he thinks he can sell) with absolutely no idea whether his work will ever be appreciated or translate into a living. Meanwhile success is actually just around the corner, and all his aimless behavior will turn out, in retrospect, to have been heroic struggling against the odds to make something genuine.

The point of the flashback at the end is that Bob Dylan playing at the Gaslight (which wasn't revealed at the start) completely changes how all the other scenes in the film must be understood. Once Dylan became successful in real life, the entire folk scene in NYC got a huge amount of attention. Llewyn might or might not become super-sucessful, but he'd at least be able to make a good living and be lifted out of purgatory. We can safely assume this because the story is actually based on a memoir by Dave Van Ronk, who did indeed achieve subsequent success - the title is a reference to his 1963 album "Inside Dave Van Ronk".

A few notes on specific scenes from the film:

- If Dylan was already big, the Record Exec played by F Murray Abraham would NOT have concluded that he "couldn't see any money here" after hearing him play ultra-serious folk. The ownership of his back catalog would be contested and he would immediately be offered an advance on future recordings, because Bob Dylan would have proved that something like that can translate for a larger audience.

- If Llewyn had succeeded in getting on a ship of the merchant navy, he'd have missed out on the coming folk resurgence and all his struggles would have been for nothing.

- The novelty song about Kennedy sending people into outer space may or may not be a hit, and we're supposed to assume Llewyn refusing royalties is a mistake at the time of the scene - but when "serious" folk music becomes suddenly commercial, having it on his resume would make him look like a for-hire hack and ruin his ability to sell himself as a real artist. Whether a hit or not, Kennedy is going to be assassinated in less than two years and it will seem tasteless and be utterly forgotten.

- Llewyn is NOT as flawed and misguided as he often appears. The reason he's depicted as such is because he actually buys the perception of Jean that he's an a-hole, even though he's totally committed in his desire to make something meaningful when most around him are not. He's sometimes obnoxious, but he also blithely pays for ALL of Jean's abortion (and has done so before with a previous girlfriend) even though she would almost certainly be at least as able to pay for half given that unlike him, she's not literally homeless.

- The flashback also reveals that the man in the bar DID have sex with Jean, which means that Jean is hardly a saint herself, given that she has apparently cheated on her boyfriend with multiple partners. Yet she is by far the most critical of Llewyn in the film - which calls the whole "Llewyn is an a-hole" premise into question: Llewyn actually cares that he lost the cat - he goes to see his dad and doesn't get angry when he reacts to hearing his music by soiling himself. He's not an *beep* at all, he's just not following the same principles as everyone else because he has a Calling that's more important to him than "just existing".


Hope this helps. I'd appreciate bumping, too many people seem to have not grasped the internal logic of this movie and are underrating it as a result, much like they did with A Serious Man. Like that film, it's seem more or less flawless to me, you just need to understand what it's doing.

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The explanation by the OP does help. I'm a fan of the Coens, and I thought this made A Serious Man look like a sunny screwball comedy by comparison. I was having trouble trying to understand the point of it all, as they seem to be in Todd Solondz-style black belittling territory, with no payoff. I got that Dylan singing at the end puts it in perspective, but it was no assurance that Llewyn was going to get success himself after all his struggles. The significance of the cat on the journey, and that his name was Ulysses seemed random, and I wondered how it supported the movie's subtext.

Everyone else may be an a**hole, but I'm not! - Harlan Ellison

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I'm an avid movie collector (as opposed to streamer) and part of collecting is getting to watch any and all extras that accompany a film.

Thanks for focusing on the real point of the film, something the makers are clear about on the extras. The "packaging" (including the sleight-of-hand flashback that you don't know is a flashback until the end) has tended to generate way too much discussion, obscuring the true focus.



'Then' and 'than' are different words - stop confusing them.

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Regarding first and last scene, I have concluded, upon reflection, that the "real" scene is chronologically at the end of the story, in other words after the "opening scene" everything else is a flashback. This is so because most of the scene as shown at the end is entirely coincidental, except for some exceptions (Dylan Thomas) and added explanations (the reason for the beating up"- They just did not bother to throw in an "2days earlier" sign. By the way, great movie and beatiful music.

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I like your thought of the future, but for me the movie is much more of a character study and almost existentialist in scope. If it was supposed to be about struggle and eventually success (like many many other art biopics) we would have seen his break. Llewlyn certainly had a heart but was defined by ambivalence and was ultimately very lost, not super driven in any direction, even toward making and spreading authentic art. The film is not about any one thing, and needs no redemption to make it valuable or work. Dylan at the end could also just serve as an ironic contrast to the story we've just seen, it's NOT a biopic, it's a deep, melancholy character study, and the coens have said aside from the music the character is wholly original and not van ronk.

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Thanks for pointing that out, Smurgledorf. People have a hard time understanding that success comes after a long slog through very unhappy places, and millions do the slog and never get the prize.

Llewyn has no idea whether he'll ever "hit" or not. (Neither do we; the movie ends before we see him jump one way or the other.) Contrary to certain American myths, he has lots of talent, but he's not successful. (Yet?) Lots of talented people never make it. The world isn't exactly set up to reward value, or even hard work. (Again, this truth rubs certain people the wrong way, but any objective analysis has to end up endorsing it.)

This movie is brilliant because we can sit outside Llewyn's life and think, "Chill out, man! Life is life!" But all he knows is, he's broke, he has to bum everything he gets off others, he has a voice and a vision, and nobody wants them. In other words, nobody wants _him_. That's what the subplot with Jean is all about. She's the embodiment of the public and humanity in general, from Llewyn's perspective.

As a guy who's struggled for decades to make a living off creative endeavours, I totally get it. Will I ever "hit"? Will I ever not be a "loser"? You don't get to know. If you quit, maybe you would have made it. If you don't, maybe you should have.

That's a hard hell to live in. And all artists do, either for a period or forever.

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People really need to stop saying that they fuond out the "real" meaning of a film. Films don't have one definite meaning, it's completely subjective, and what ever meaning anyone got from this film, is just as correct and valid as your explanation.

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